WWE Game XVI: RAW Vol. 3

[Hammy]

so barrett shouldve had 27

if he gets pts for edge dq ,orton elimination and sole survivor.

in all honesty i think jericho and  edge should get 5. theytechincally eliminated themselves. so why should tarver get pts for not really eliminating jericho?  cause he didn't pin submit or cause the countout.
Tarver was the legal man when Edge got himself DQ'd.

Ok here is a scenario.

Edge vs Tarver on RAW.  Edge get's dq'd on purpose so Tarver wins, but we don't give tarver win points because he didn't beat Edge, Edge just got himself DQ'd, you see my point, then people would argue, was the dq on purpose or not, should it count, should he not, way i see it at that point in the match it was Edge vs Tarver and Edge lost.

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so if everybody on nexus gets 5 for Edge.. then Wade should have 27. so ill add 5 to my score right?

[Hammy]

so if everybody on nexus gets 5 for Edge.. then Wade should have 27. so ill add 5 to my score right?

No you miss the point, the person who was the legal man when he got dq'd (tarver) gets the 5.  Just like the legal man (tarver) gets 5 when Jericho get counted out.  That's why I thought this was a good time for this rule change/confirmation anyway, nobody has him.

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I think the rule should be in elimination matches, whoever eliminates the person gets 5pts


so if Jericho walks out.. jericho gets 5  but only in elimination matches.



or whoever is legal man.

[BlowUpYourVideo]

IMO, you should only get points for eliminating an opponent if the elimination was by pin or submission. Yes, in a singles match, if someone gets counted out, the winner gets win points but elimination matches are different I think. I don't think being the legal man when Jericho walked out or Edge shoved the ref warrants elimination points, but it would if it were a singles match, 'cos then the match is over. The guy who walked out has lost.

JMO

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Yeah i agree with Blowup

elimination matches your wrestler has to physically do something to ELMINATE the guy via pin,submission or beating them down thus causing a countout.

I seem Hammy's side though.. if Jericho were in a match with Tarver and walked out, Tarver would still get win points....

i just think Eliminations are different cause the actual match continues whereas in a single match, the match would be over and end.

[Hammy]

i just think Eliminations are different cause the actual match continues whereas in a single match, the match would be over and end.

If Orton had walked out last rather than be pinned the match would be over though....

My point is, just because they didn't physically eliminate them, you either allow dq's/count outs or you don't.

What if Cena had done the Attitude Adjustment to Tarver on the outside, rolled back in and got him counted out.  Since we don't count "count out" eliminations, Cena wouldn't get points for that??

[BlowUpYourVideo]

I think I just assumed that was the way we'd always done it.

Dunno what others think....

[Hammy]

I think I just assumed that was the way we'd always done it.

Dunno what others think....

I think it might have been, my point is I think its wrong and should be changed now, while its unbiased, since nobody has Tarver.

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i just think Eliminations are different cause the actual match continues whereas in a single match, the match would be over and end.

If Orton had walked out last rather than be pinned the match would be over though....

My point is, just because they didn't physically eliminate them, you either allow dq's/count outs or you don't.

What if Cena had done the Attitude Adjustment to Tarver on the outside, rolled back in and got him counted out.  Since we don't count "count out" eliminations, Cena wouldn't get points for that??

read my post again please.  i said the person has to PHYSICALLY do something to cause the elimination. Cena AA someone on the floor and getting a countout qualifies just as if Edge hit tarver with a chair that would give Tarver pts.



its easier to do who is legal i guess but it in my opinion isn't truly an elmination if a guy walks out on his own free will.

so yeah u could say if Orton walks out, Barrett gets win and survivor pts but not the 5 elimination pts.

[Hammy]

i just think Eliminations are different cause the actual match continues whereas in a single match, the match would be over and end.

If Orton had walked out last rather than be pinned the match would be over though....

My point is, just because they didn't physically eliminate them, you either allow dq's/count outs or you don't.

What if Cena had done the Attitude Adjustment to Tarver on the outside, rolled back in and got him counted out.  Since we don't count "count out" eliminations, Cena wouldn't get points for that??

read my post again please.  i said the person has to PHYSICALLY do something to cause the elimination. Cena AA someone on the floor and getting a countout qualifies just as if Edge hit tarver with a chair that would give Tarver pts.



its easier to do who is legal i guess but it in my opinion isn't truly an elmination if a guy walks out on his own free will.

so yeah u could say if Orton walks out, Barrett gets win and survivor pts but not the 5 elimination pts.

Yeah I got the point, but by saying that you are bound to create a grey area, someone could distract someone, trick them, etc. and so on without a physical confrontation.

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yeah, i just like arguing with u to keep u entertained at work


so legal man gets pts.

simple easy less confusion.

[Hammy]

Right, sorted, and yes I'm bored at work, so bored I went out shopping on the local market, got me a couple of CDs for ?3.50 and a T-Shirt (GN'R kind...) for ?3    I'll edit the rules, Tarver's points etc. and so on.

[Hammy]

Raw
Brie Bella, Darren Young, Eve Torres, Gail Kim, Goldust, The Great Khali, Jey Uso, Jillian, Jimmy Uso, Justin Gabriel, Mark Henry, Maryse, Michael Tarver, Natalya, Nikki Bella, Primo, Santino Marella, Tamina, Vladimir Kozlov, William Regal, Yoshi Tatsu, Zach Ryder.

Smackdown
Caylen Croft, Chavo Guerrero, Chris Masters, Curt Hawkins, JTG, Kelly Kelly, Matt Hardy, Rosa Mendes, Tiffany, Trent Barreta, Vance Archer.

NXT
AJ Lee, Jamie Keyes, Kaitlyn, Maxine

Released, Inactive, Injured, Without a Brand.
Aloisia, Beth Phoenix, Eli Cottonwood, Ezekiel Jackson, Finlay, Husky Harris, Joseph Mercury, Lucky Cannon, Percy Watson, Serena, Shad Gaspard, Skip Sheffield, Titus O'Neil, Tyler Reks.

Recurring Legends
Brooklyn Brawler, Dusty Rhodes, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Jimmy Snuka, Mae Young, Marty Jannetty, Iron Sheik, IRS, Ricky Steamboat, Roddy Piper, Ron Simmons, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, Sgt. Slaughter, Sunny, Ted DiBiase Snr, The Rock, Tony Atlas, Trish Stratus, Virgil.

Non-Wrestling Recurring Characters
Ashley Valence, Big Dick Johnson, Bret Hart, Jerry Lawler, Josh Matthews, Hornswoggle, Matt Striker, Michael Cole, Ranjin Singh, Stephanie Mcmahon, Theodore Long, Todd Grisham, Vickie Guerrero, Vince Mcmahon.

WWE Superstars
Ted DiBiase = 12
Goldust = 5
Santino Marella = 12
Jimmy Uso = 5
Kofi Kingston = 12
Chavo Guerrero = 5

Smackdown
Christian = 12
Drew McIntyre = 5
Michelle McCool = 12
Kelly Kelly = 5
Dolph Ziggler = 12
Chris Masters = 5
Big Show = 12
CM Punk & Luke Gallows = 5 Each
Cody Rhodes = 12
Matt Hardy = 5

Raw
John Morrison = 12
Chris Jericho = 5
Melina = 32
Alicia Fox = 5
John Cena = 12
Justin Gabriel = 5
Edge = 12
The Great Khali = 5
Randy Orton = 12
Wade Barrett = 5

NXT
Primo = 12
Goldust = 5
AJ Lee = 12
Aksana = 5
Naomi = 12
Kelly Kelly = 12
Alicia Fox = 5
Maxine = 5

WWE Superstars
R-Truth = 12
William Regal = 5
The Dudebusters = 12 Each
The Gatecrashers = 5 Each
Goldust = 12
Gail Kim = 12
Primo = 5
Jillian = 5
Big Show = 12
Luke Gallows = 5

Jim: The Miz, David Hart Smith, Dolph Ziggler, Ted DiBiase, Evan Bourne ($120,000) = 24
Hammy: John Cena, Tyson Kidd, Cody Rhodes, Heath Slater, David Otunga ($120,000) = 24
Evolution: Randy Orton, Chris Jericho, Michelle McCool, Alex Riley, Kaval ($100,000) = 29
slashsfro: Sheamus, Kane, Big Show, Christian, Michael McGillicutty ($120,000) = 36
AtariLegend: Daniel Bryan, Undertaker, R-Truth, Triple H, Alicia Fox ($120,000) = 22
D: Kofi Kingston, Wade Barrett, Jack Swagger, MVP, Naomi ($80,000) = 34
Gnrfan: Edge, Melina, Rey Mysterio, Layla, Aksana ($80,000) = 49
Scotta75: CM Punk, John Morrison, Drew McIntyre, Alberto Del Rio, Luke Gallows ($100,000) = 32

1. Evolution = 81
2. Hammy = 73
=. D = 73
4. Gnrfan = 62
5. slashfro = 51
6. Scotta75 = 42
7. Jim = 41
8. AtariLegend = 39

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something tells me Im bout to take my first lead of the new game!