WWE Game XVI: RAW Vol. 3

[Hammy]

we will see though, hell, maybe they throw in a Team Nexus vs someone SS style match for the heck of it.

Not enough guys left.  Only 3 Nexus guys not tied up in matches.

[D]

I'm in one of those bad situations no doubt. reading my list... a WHOLE lotof **** has to go my way. Of course it isn't impossible, I mean Hammy's come from behind win by 1pt over Jim *Sorry Jim* proved that really anything is possible in this game. didn't Neemo or somebody lead by tons of pts all game and end up losing?

That being said, I can't make an argument as to why Natayla would lose this title match. I think LayCool are due to split and i think we see the beginning of that Sunday. Layla will accidentally hit McCool or something and allow Natalya to win and then we will see the feud develop from there.

I'm trying to play a scenario out that would allow Natayla to win and still allow me to have a shot. that also isn't necessarily impossible especially since Hammy isn't getting Reks and hopefully this is a celebration of Nexus and not the end by all of them losing.


For me to have any shot whatsoever, Barrett must walk out as Champion. No cash ins, no loss. although im scared shitless of Miz not having a match on the card.

[Jim]

I'm in one of those bad situations no doubt. reading my list... a WHOLE lotof **** has to go my way. Of course it isn't impossible, I mean Hammy's come from behind win by 1pt over Jim *Sorry Jim* proved that really anything is possible in this game.

... We don't discuss that on these forums.*

That said, I remember at the time (I think that it was you), you saying that were it you, you'd be going over all of the scores to make sure that there weren't any mistakes...

... Don't think that doesn't cross my mind from time!

The only two things that stop me are that, knowing my luck, it would turn out that any mistake would result in more points for Hammy, and also that I love you guys so much that I wouldn't want to devalue winning the title by having my name up there on the list of previous champions.

*But for anybody reading that wasn't there, it was after the last PPV of the game (Wrestlemania, I believe...)... After I'd lead for ages...

[D]

Trust me Jim, that hurt me almost as much as it hurt you. Knowing Hammy has 1 more title than me and the fact he won by 1 single point also gives me a deep pain when i think about it.

[Hammy]

Hey it was Wrestlemania Season, apart from the one 'Mania game where I was partially absent, I've won all those games, this would be my first win outside of 'Mania season.  All the old games are linked to in the Titles, Woodenspoons and everything else thread anyway if someone has a few hours to spare and wants to read 50 odd pages 

On 2 side notes: Nitro's game is so close, anyone of the Top 5 could win, that is going to be interesting (Yes Nitro has bought advertising time on the top rated game *Cheap Nitro Pop*)

Also in this game.  If at this weekends PPV Dolph Ziggler gets a match and title defence, Nexus successfully defend their tag titles and Miz cashes in, Jim could be in with a shot....

[AtariLegend]

I don't really watch wrestling anymore that often to be honest, I read the results of Raw then watch a match or two from the PPVs.

I think this is my last wood spoon.

[D]

I don't really watch wrestling anymore that often to be honest, I read the results of Raw then watch a match or two from the PPVs.

I think this is my last wood spoon.

just keep trying man, i always say, the worst strategy u can have in any type of fantasy based sport, is allowing your heart to override your head. see Blowup with Luke Gallows or me with Matt hardy.

U didn't draft a bad team by any means. U gambled on Ted Jr but i think everyone expects him to break out eventually....... I mean u would think right?  Daniel Bryan also kinda got depushed after winning the title. He didn't do anywhere near what I expected ,but it was still a very good pick. Problem is, u miss on your 1st or 2nd pick or get an injury, u really have no chance. Hammy has gotten it done via smoke and mirrors this game having missed on Tyson Kidd at pick 2.

I've said it for years, unless u luck up like Cowbell with Miz or there is a John Cena monster, games are normally won by picks 3-5. Look at Cowbell for instance. Why did he lose? cause his 3-5 were terrible.

Also look at my and Hammy's mistakes this game. Some of the best add/drops are sometimes the ones U dont make. Hammy had tag champs dropped them before they won, I had Reks,who, had i kept, would've given me a much greater chance of pulling the comeback. I noticed u are out of money and have Ezekiel and Alicia, so see, had u waited, u would've been able to grab tag champs and maybe finished top 5.


This has also been a very weird game. People are really bunched up from 2 to 7. Jim has things go his way, he can go from 7 to 2nd easily. This is one of those, if Hammy wins, u will look backon in a couple years and see his team and say to yourself "HOW?"  Not hating on Hammy but if u look at his team strictly on paper and didn't know the scores, i doubt anyone would imagine he'd have an over 100 pt lead.

[Hammy]

Aren't you 2 meant to hate each other?

Are you breaking kayfabe again Donnie

[D]

Hammy I've mellowed, I'm at the Shawn Michaels stage of my career. I forget old grudges, I encourage and try to build new champions.

You are the HHH, holding tight to your spot and crushing all the new talent and not giving them any rub.

[Hammy]

Raw
Alex Riley, Brie Bella, Darren Young, Eve Torres, Gail Kim, Goldust, The Great Khali, Jey Uso, Jimmy Uso, Maryse, Nikki Bella, Primo, Tamina, William Regal, Yoshi Tatsu, Zach Ryder.

Smackdown
Chavo Guerrero, Curt Hawkins, Finlay, JTG, Kelly Kelly, Rosa Mendes, Trent Barreta.

NXT
AJ, Aksana, Kaitlyn, Maxine, Naomi.

Released, Inactive, Injured, Without a Brand.
Aloisia, Beth Phoenix, Caylen Croft, Chris Jericho, Christian, Eli Cottonwood, Evan Bourne, Jamie Keyes, Jillian, Joseph Mercury, Lucky Cannon, Luke Gallows, Matt Hardy, Michael Tarver, Percy Watson, Serena, Shad Gaspard, Skip Sheffield, Tiffany, Titus O'Neil, Triple H, Undertaker, Vance Archer.

Recurring Legends
Brooklyn Brawler, Dusty Rhodes, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Jimmy Snuka, Mae Young, Marty Jannetty, Iron Sheik, IRS, Ricky Steamboat, Roddy Piper, Ron Simmons, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, Sgt. Slaughter, Sunny, Ted DiBiase Snr, The Rock, Tony Atlas, Trish Stratus, Virgil.

Non-Wrestling Recurring Characters
Ashley Valence, Big Dick Johnson, Bret Hart, Jerry Lawler, Josh Matthews, Hornswoggle, Matt Striker, Michael Cole, Paul Bearer, Ranjin Singh, Stephanie Mcmahon, Theodore Long, Todd Grisham, Vickie Guerrero, Vince Mcmahon.

WWE Superstars
Trent Barreta = 12
Curt Hawkins = 5
Chavo Guerrero = 12
JTG = 5
Gail Kim = 12
Melina = 12
Alicia Fox = 5
Maryse = 5
Yoshi Tatsu = 12
Primo = 5

Smackdown
MVP = 24
Drew McIntyre = 15
Big Show = 39
Tyler Reks = 15
Cody Rhodes = 17
Kofi Kingston = 22
Jack Swagger = 17
Chris Masters = 22
Alberto Del Rio = 15
Rey Mysterio = 32
Kaval = 12
Dolph Ziggler = 5
Lay-Cool = 12 Each
Natalya = 5
Kelly Kelly = 5

Jim: The Miz, David Hart Smith, Dolph Ziggler, Justin Gabriel, Heath Slater ($0) = 5
Hammy: John Cena, Tyson Kidd, Cody Rhodes, Santino Marella, Natalya ($20,000) = 22
Evolution: Randy Orton, Vladimir Kozlov, Michelle McCool, Chris Masters, Kaval ($0) = 46
slashsfro: Sheamus, Kane, Big Show, Mark Henry, Michael McGillicutty ($100,000) = 39
AtariLegend: Daniel Bryan, Ted DiBiase, R-Truth, Ezekiel Jackson, Alicia Fox ($0) = 5
D: Kofi Kingston, Wade Barrett, Jack Swagger, MVP, Husky Harris ($0) = 63
Gnrfan: Edge, Melina, Rey Mysterio, Layla, Tyler Reks ($29,000) = 56
Scotta75: CM Punk, John Morrison, Drew McIntyre, Alberto Del Rio, David Otunga ($0) = 30

1. Hammy = 844
2. D = 754
3. slashfro = 698
4. Scotta75 = 695
5. Evolution = 644
6. Gnrfan = 633
7. Jim = 572
8. AtariLegend = 519

[D]

Oh WOW, i didn't anticipate getting this close. I saw SD spoilers but somehow missed the battle royal results!

Still though, Natayla wins, I just won't have time.

This is big because it puts me in a position, that even if Barrett wins but loses to Miz, as long as Santino doesn't win or Natayla, and Cena doesn't get put into some last minute Survivor Series match, I will still have a shot even without Barrett being champ.

Huge SD for me....

[Hammy]

Nattie got pinned on Smackdown and wwe.com questioned how she would be able to overcome Lay-Cool this weekend, I mean if she can't beat them with Kelly Kelly by her side, how can she do it alone....

....So when they build things like this, it means she wins....right?  Don't break all the logical rules of wrestling now WWE!

[D]

Only thing i can see, is if they start a Laycool split with maybe McCool hitting the finisher and Layla pinning... then jealousy which leads to a McCool/Layla Diva title match.....

This concept is reallly pretty stupid though, what stops them from doing a New Age Outlaws and they throw Natayla out of the ring and one lays down for the other?

Going by WWE logic Del Rio/Swagger and Cody team should win.... that sucks for me also cause Cody blocks my Swagger ,w hereas if team Rey/BigShow win, i get win pts for Kofi,MVP and Swagger cancels Cody except potential eliminations.

So even if they don't elminate anybody, I could gain what 20 win 5 special? and gain 50 on u in that match not counting elminations of course.

so that is a possible way for Natayla to win and I stay alive of course Barrett has to win and keep it or its a moot point. Barrett/Natayla would kind of cancel each other out not sure exact scoring, you would get 8 for Santino... Jesus Chris if he wins tag Gold and Natayla wins...   But I could potentially still walk out 40 plus pts closer and be 50 down with roughly a month to go. This is exciting and definitely makes Survivor Series more interesting for me. I'll actually be on the edge of my seat thanks to this game where otherwise, i would've cared less.

[Hammy]

Santino only wins if Barrett loses.  If this is Barrett's night, then it's Nexus' night.

I could see Cena screwing Slater and Gabriel, running down earlier in the night, then screwing Orton, getting fired and working a storyline where he tries to get his job back, it wouldn't be the first time.  Current booking shows they have a Miz vs Orton feud planned, so one of them needs the title, I see Miz cashing in after Orton retains.

Heel team should win SS match, "Special" is +4.  Main Event is +5.

If Barrett wins in the final match.  59 points.  Unless there is a MITB cash in after.

Lay-Cool don't care which ones does the pinning as long as they win.  Only way to start a split angle is if they lose.  I could see Natalya losing, getting beat down and then Beth returning for the save, I mean do they care about Natalya enough to book her properly and preserve her credibility?  I wouldn't bet on it.

I must say this is one of the most active and competitive games in ages, really like it and the league, when was the last time EVERYONE spent some money, and so many were out of cash.  If anyone good debuts or returns before the end of the game its me vs Gnrfan vs slashsfro for them, and he can easily outbid us since Gnrfan is going to slip down to 29k.  He could win the game if the right people debut.

[D]

Yeah man and even the B League is on fire with competitiveness.

Will Yankee repeat? Will Nightrain hold him off? Its crazy what Nightrain has done with a 4 man roster. Not sure I've ever seen someone possibly win a title with no points at all from 5th spot.

Honest to God, I just can't see Natayla being the champ. When Hart Dynasty had tag run it made sense... makes little sense now. Plus, Beth should be coming back soon... as with Melina, they like giving the rub with a title win. If Natayla wins tomorrow.... the Beth angle really becomes weird. it makes more sense for Laycool to win Beth makes save... Beth takes title at TLC.

Tomorrow is a huge turning point for WWE one way or the other.

they have several directions they can go..... I honestly will be shocked if Miz doesn't cash in. the fact he has NO  match..... Highly doubtful he won't appear on one of the biggest PPV's of  the year. My best case scenario is if miz cashes in would be for Barrett to be champ. At least then i still get over 50 pts. Of course it makes no sense MIz cashing in on Barrett.