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Creative don't like PG? Godfather Plans?
« on: July 16, 2009, 11:58:26 am »
WWE's creative team is trying to slowly sneak things back into programming and make it, in TV terms, more PG-13 than PG even though the company's official position is that they are PG and staying that way. The word lesbian has been spoken twice before 10PM in recent weeks and they did the Divas Bikini match on RAW this past week as well as the spot with Santino Marella and the Trish Stratus action figure. Those on the creative team say they want to push it more but don't have a green light from higher-ups yet. There is an idea that if the guest host gimmick for RAW is still going on in late August, to use The Godfather in his old gimmick as the special host for the August 24th RAW in Las Vegas.

Chances are it won't last Vince always had his "Ideas" then changes his mind.  Personally my biggest issue with the PG nature is stuff like the censoring of blood.  On DVDs and WWE 24/7 they actually turn the screen black and white, now that just wrecks people's viewing.  Watching Smackdown at the moment, that is a quality show and proves you can be PG and decent, RAW is crap simply because, well its crap, being PG or not doesn't really make a difference to the overall quality.  I'd love to see The Godfather return, his cameo appearances are always fun.

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Re: Creative don't like PG? Godfather Plans?
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2009, 01:30:34 pm »
I think the WWE will ditch the PG thing at some point. I don't know when but I can't see the company staying like this forever. It seems to go in phases: kid-friendly 80s/early 90s, Attitude era, current version....

I watched the Vince/Taker Buried Alive Match the other day. Seems bizarre to see Vince McMahon himself bleeding like that. Maybe that's what led to his fear of blood that he seems to have now.... :P
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Re: Creative don't like PG? Godfather Plans?
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2009, 01:32:25 pm »
I watched the Vince/Taker Buried Alive Match the other day. Seems bizarre to see Vince McMahon himself bleeding like that. Maybe that's what led to his fear of blood that he seems to have now.... :P
One of the greatest ever blade jobs was Vince against Hogan when he popped his head up, covered in blood with that manic "Here's Vince..." look.

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Re: Creative don't like PG? Godfather Plans?
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2009, 04:50:52 am »
My guess is, the PG thing is temporary just to give people a break from everything that's been overdone and when they bring that stuff back in a year or so, it will seem exciting again and new.
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Re: Creative don't like PG? Godfather Plans?
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2009, 12:37:27 pm »
My guess is, the PG thing is temporary just to give people a break from everything that's been overdone and when they bring that stuff back in a year or so, it will seem exciting again and new.
Well it'd be fresh if they let the new upcoming main eventers blade...Ziggler, Morrison, Punk that would be pretty cool rather than the same old people who do the blade jobs.

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Re: Creative don't like PG? Godfather Plans?
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2009, 02:52:26 pm »
not everybody likes doing the blades though and getting that ugly scar tissue built up on the head.
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Re: Creative don't like PG? Godfather Plans?
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2009, 03:08:38 pm »
not everybody likes doing the blades though and getting that ugly scar tissue built up on the head.

True TNA jobbed out MCMG for nearly a year when they refused to do it though.

Most of the time its seen as something special, least in WWE, being allowed to do it and thats why its reserved for the top line guys.

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Re: Creative don't like PG? Godfather Plans?
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2009, 08:08:43 pm »
Million dollar mania looked like it would kill WWE stone dead - it was dropped, and fast

....PG will go soon. Vince is doing this to 'prove' a point, win an argument with someone - he's got the worst case of ADHD i've seen, he'll be bored and on top another gimmick before too long :D

...the only danger is if he feels challenged on it, his own beligerance will have him hold his ground even if it personally hurts him
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Re: Creative don't like PG? Godfather Plans?
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2009, 10:22:11 pm »
Thats the thing Vince hates to admit when he is wrong.  Take the brand split, it hasn't been a success, but rather than drop it he has just blatantly abused it numerous times.  Saying that it does have its positives, the pushes on Smackdown wouldn't happen without it, you'd just have Orton and Triple H killing every show.

To avoid admit defeat it'll be quietly phased out without officially being dropped, there have already been signs in recent weeks anyway.

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Re: Creative don't like PG? Godfather Plans?
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2009, 11:55:46 pm »
Orton beating Triple H half to death while he was handcuffed to the ropes was about as reprehensible as anything i've ever seen staged

As a far younger person the violence and blood of Raw was the reason I was watching - as a kid that stuff just seemed so cool, 'PG' stuff pissed me off - and isnt that the way with kids? They all want to see the stuff they shouldnt be allowed to

A hard edged RAW would appeal to more kids than the new junk - WWE isnt suitable for kids anyway!
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Re: Creative don't like PG? Godfather Plans?
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2009, 12:15:00 am »
Exactly!  D-X what all abouts kids rebelling and telling their parents to suck it, heck I remember many a promo along the lines of "Kids, make sure your parents are in bed...."

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Re: Creative don't like PG? Godfather Plans?
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2009, 01:19:46 pm »
Time for a DX return - but not the camp Triple H/HBK version

Fair enough the 2006 return was hilarious - bit also made me die a bit in side

Very much needs to be a heel faction

Surely the easiest way to deal with 'PG' is have DX return and over throw it all, Vince can save face that way and there need not be any public announcement
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Re: Creative don't like PG? Godfather Plans?
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2009, 01:22:48 pm »
Downside is they'd get little heat, they'd be treated as the babyfaces by the fans...the "Cool" ones.  Much like nWo ended up and Main Event Mafia has on numerous occasions.

Whats so heelish about overthrowing the PG ways, everyone would love it, kids included.

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Re: Creative don't like PG? Godfather Plans?
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2009, 01:18:19 pm »
I see nothing wrong with going the PG route. Wrestling never belonged in the gutter to begin with. If people want to see **** and ass, its a Baywatch rerun or a google search away.

Save the blood for the PPVs.



Downside is they'd get little heat, they'd be treated as the babyfaces by the fans...the "Cool" ones.  Much like nWo
I stopped watching wrestling during that(I always went through off-on phases in the 90s), but that was the greatest and worst storyline in wrestling history. The Outsiders thing was innovative, and Hogan turning heel was just pure genius. I guarantee you that when Mcmahon saw this he had wished he did the same to Hogan either at Wrestlemania IV or right after it. Would have been shocking.

They overplayed their hand big time. I think even my grandma was an NWO member at one point.
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Re: Creative don't like PG? Godfather Plans?
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2009, 08:55:07 pm »
The gutter? We're talking about mature drama, well written, inovative and shocking on occaision. There are precious few 'PG' films that really make the grade. Great drama can't exist within a straightjacket - if an angle calls for 30 onscreen deaths u gotta be ready to do it. A feud that's settled by calling in the parents isn't going to wash....

But ur right about the NWO, who wasn't a
member?!
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