WWE Raw Thread

[nightrain]

Best episode of raw in a long time. Long may it continue!!

[D]

Its just weird how they are now kicking so much ass.. where was this years ago?

Wonder how much HHH is helping the product? doesn't he have an increased role backstage etc?

[AtariLegend]

I don't get it, Apart from Money In The Bank being a great PPV, i think people are getting carried away.

Same old freshen up Raw (using the same formula) angle with way too many logic gaps, like why would Mysterio agree to defend the title to Cena an hr after winning it and why did those mathes even happen if Punk had already signed a new contract?

The authority fiqure changing and Vince lossing control angle has been so many times in the past 12 years, must be at least 30 or so by this point? Triple H has even ran the company (on air) at least twice before too.

The show were Punk did the promo a few weeks ago as one of the worst RAWs of the year up till that ending.

[scotta75]

The only thing that is going to help RAW is fresh talent getting the main event spots and people like John Cena being use to help make the younger talent get better.

You can not keep pushing Cena down peoples throats it is **** retarded to see him with the WWE title, there is no point for him to carry that title.

Raw was decent the only thing I like was Triple H and Punk segment an the R-truth and Miz segment and the tag team with them in it too after I turn it off because I got bored.

[Axl4Life]

I'm beginning to think that WWE are already failing to capitalise on the momentum of CM Punk. He done that brilliant shoot promo before Money In The Bank, which turned alot of heads and got people wondering what was gonna happen next. Since then, technically, nothing of much significance has really occured. Maybe they don't know themselves what they should do as most of the talent and writers from the famous "Attitude era" have now moved on, and the "entertainment" writers thats left don't know how to emulate it.

Despite all of this I still believe CM Punk is the best character in professional wrestling today. As for his storyline/feud with Cena, am I the only one who's drawing comparisons from Cena's feud with Edge in 2006 when Edge won his first WWE Championship which led into the "Rated R Superstar era." My point is, is it a definitve turning point in CM Punk's career right now? Absolutely. The Punk era? Maybe. As for groundbreaking television and the best thing in years? Probably. But will it ever be held in the same regard as anything from the "Attitude era" ? Don't think so. Simply because the "Attitude era" was a collective effort and despite how cool it sounds on TV in a promo, or certainly from a long-term creative standpoint, one man cannot "make wrestling fun again."

Just my two cents.

[Hammy]

Loved the CM Punk stuff again, the opening segment with Triple H was priceless.  Some of the stuff he came out with, made for some really good viewing.

I see people here and in other places complaining.

They brought him back too soon.

Its not a new era.

He's not that over.

Hey, he has revolutionised the show, but his is making for great viewing for me, just enjoy it for what it is.

[D]

Loved Raw but my God how terrible is Cena on the mic?? Bores me to tears.

[nightrain]

Only just got round to watching this weeks Raw.  Another solid show and Punk is pure gold at the moment.  Inevitable that we were gonna get the Summerslam match between Punk and Cena.

And Santinoooooooooooooooooo!  Loved the cobra! Ha Ha!!!  And a seriously great pop for Ryder. WWWYKI

Can't stand Otunga and Mcgil................Hennig though.

[D]

Didn't take them long to completely drop the ball on the angle that couldve saved wrestling

CM vs Nash?

Russo is gotta be back booking this ****

Albert Del Rio is a cobra away from being Santino

[Yankee1012]

Didn't take them long to completely drop the ball on the angle that couldve saved wrestling

CM vs Nash?

Russo is gotta be back booking this ****

Albert Del Rio is a cobra away from being Santino

What's so bad about it? The promos have been good and its made for entertaining stuff.  Eventually this will probably lead to a HHH vs Punk match and Stephanie will be the one who sent the text.

[Hammy]

Didn't take them long to completely drop the ball on the angle that couldve saved wrestling

CM vs Nash?

Russo is gotta be back booking this ****

Albert Del Rio is a cobra away from being Santino

What's so bad about it? The promos have been good and its made for entertaining stuff.  Eventually this will probably lead to a HHH vs Punk match and Stephanie will be the one who sent the text.

Its because they didn't follow D's WWE Game script.

CM Punk holds the title all year, defends it EVERY week, D scores massive amounts of points and finally wins a WWE Game Title (he has won one you know...maybe even two if you go far enough back, I think he even won a 3rd before CDs were invented  )

[D]

no no game aside... If this happened in TNA all u WWE marks would be bashing the living hell out of TNA and how they are using dinosaurs in the top spots still.

[Hammy]

no no game aside... If this happened in TNA all u WWE marks would be bashing the living hell out of TNA and how they are using dinosaurs in the top spots still.

Dinosaurs??

Triple H in a non wrestling role (and lets be honest he can still go in the ring) and Nash mainly cutting promos, not a regular wrestler like he was in TNA.  I've said for ages, guys like Nash, as talkers, thats fine.

And this whole dropping the ball with Punk?  He's the most over he's ever been.  He got put in the beginning, middle and end segments.  He's getting plenty of exposure and is in a storyline where he's trying to find out who screwed him out of the WWE Title.  Once he is done with Nash it will be on to Triple H which is a pretty big feud.  Heck knowing Triple H's ego, even without the World Title involved they'll be headlining PPVs.  And the other top spots are occupied by those dinosaurs Cena and Del Rio I see.  And likening Del Rio to Santino?  Simply due to a quick loss to Punk a few weeks back??  This is the same guy who won the Rumble, MITB, has beaten Morrison, D Bryan, Mysterio, he has generally looked strong.  Yes losing at 'Mania was a mistake, and there are times he could have been booked better, and I'm not a fan of his, but the Santino comparison is insane!

[D]

Santino got the hot push to start.. won IC title and kind of went to crap from there..

Del Rio is terrible on the mic and doesn't deserve to win the title this quick. U use to have to EARN the title because u were the best in the company and u sold the tickets and were the draw..

now they use it to try and get a midcarder over.

WWE title means absolutely nothing.

[BlowUpYourVideo]

U use to have to EARN the title because u were the best in the company and u sold the tickets and were the draw..

I've never quite understood the whole 'draw' thing. Maybe it's just me but I never watch a wrestling show or gone to a live event thinking "I can't wait to see [Wrestler X]." Other than the kids who'll likely want to see Cena or possibly Mysterio, does anyone here watch wrestling for one particular guy? If you're going by who sells the tickets and merch, then Cena should have been WWE Champion for the last six years or so non-stop...

And D, I seem to recall you saying, not long ago, that it was a disgrace that CM Punk had been World Champion as opposed to various wrestlers of the past.

Punk without the belt chasing down the conspirators is more interesting than Punk with the title right now IMO. And all you Del Rio haters need to show his some respect. He brings class to the WWE dammit!