WWE Raw Thread

[Hammy]

After sustaining Triple H’s pedigree on last week’s RAW, Hornswoggle will be out for several weeks to sell the injury and is expected to return at the 11/30 RAW which emanates from Baltimore, MD.

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Midgets = fragile

[Izzy]

that pedigree was the best moment in all of wrestling

Hornwoggle needs to go - we need a sniper in the stands

...he can take out Vince too...

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Oh well, it seems they're not going any further with the DX breakup thing. Not this week, at least....

Although it seemed it a bit random, I have to say I enjoyed Ventura and McMahon on commentary. And Ventura was coherent, unlike Roddy Piper for much of last week.... He's probably been the best guest host they've had so far.

[Hammy]

Loved RAW!  Seriously, best one in months!

Continuation of Orton and Kofi feud which I'm really enjoying, Ventura on commentary was superb to, as a kid watching the old VHS' with him on commentary I always thought he was superb, and you can really feel the tension between him and Mcmahon and genuine dislike.

Elevating young talent continues, to admit that they are sick of the same old contenders, well done, Sheamus winning was great to see, can they convince the fans in 3 weeks though that he is a viable contender?

Little criticisms, Evan Bourne, squashed (again), D-X joking about what happened last night and now the "Small people's court" next week, I'm sure it'll be funny but I'd like them to decide whether they are comedy or serious, the balance just seems all wrong after the looks on their faces at the PPV.

Maryse, medicore wrestler, but so hot, so its all good, she really is stunning.

Wasn't this meant to be a "Tri-Branded" show, where was ECW?  And come on, one Smackdown guy in the Main Event, all the others lost their qualifying matches, are they trying to reverse the result of Bragging Rights as to which brand is supreme?

Oh and Ventura and Mcmahon for commentary EVERY week!  Although he'd have to stop saying the word conspiracy in EVERY sentence.

Edit: Also that "Marine 2" trailer gave the impression, Ted Dibiase, the star, says very little, most of the one liners shown were by his co-stars

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^I fear that things might not be so great with Troyer next week....


They seem to have put Sheamus over well. I didn't think he 'looked' too threatening before, but now I can buy him as a slightly unstable/dangerous badass. Chances of him winning the title are virtually none but this feud with Cena should be interesting.

[Hammy]

^ I'd forgotten about Verne, thats why we are getting the "Little People's Court" then, its going to be midget jokes all round!

Kudos to the people who have helped put Sheamus over, they've sold a move as simple as a bicycle kick and made it look vicious (especially Finlay), I also like his take on the Razors/Outsiders Edge!  It has been quite the push, I honestly thought when he first debuted, never above midcard.  It shows though that having Triple H as a fan helps, I posted an article a few weeks back where Triple H hailed him (http://www.thesquaredcircle.smfnew.com/index.php?topic=528.0), Trips is also a Drew McIntyre fan, hence his likewise push, although if at the next PPV its Drew vs. Undertaker I'd be more than shocked....

[Axl4Life]

RAW was awesome this week! Reminded of the attitude era in ways.

Cena/Punk match was pretty damn good I thought. As with Cena's confrontations with Sheamus there was a nice fresh feeling on the show. Genuinely looking forward to Cena vs Sheamus and I hope at some point down the road we get a Punk/Cena fued.

Jesse Ventura was by far the best guest host they've had yet! He's so awesome, you believe everything he says, at points I thought what he was saying was an unplanned shoot. Was shocked what he said about Cena being a pretty poster boy champion with his face on everything and behind the scenes brown noses the boss, I think half the audience was stunned by it too.

Hart Dynasty/DX was a nice novelty to see but should have been a lot more competitive.

It saddens me that Bourne was jobbed out again. Didn't he beat Orton in his first match on Raw?

[Hammy]

It saddens me that Bourne was jobbed out again. Didn't he beat Orton in his first match on Raw?

Nope (not that I remember).

There was a "Talent Exchange" and from ECW, Bourne, Swagger and Henry arrived and from what I remember it was a 3 on 1 Gauntlet match vs. Orton.  Orton beat Bourne, Swagger got himself counted out as a favour to Orton and then Henry beat Orton.

[Rankin]

It saddens me that Bourne was jobbed out again. Didn't he beat Orton in his first match on Raw?

Nope (not that I remember).

There was a "Talent Exchange" and from ECW, Bourne, Swagger and Henry arrived and from what I remember it was a 3 on 1 Gauntlet match vs. Orton.  Orton beat Bourne, Swagger got himself counted out as a favour to Orton and then Henry beat Orton.

Correct. Orton beat Bourne by that sweet top rope RKO which looked excellent.

[Hammy]

A solid show, not as good as last week as the guest host dragged it down, the segments with Mark Henry trying to get a personality, for the most part sucked, I only enjoyed Miz, to think, we had to wait for an Austin Powers ****-take for someone to call Mark Henry "Fat Bastard" 

I thought Triple H and Chris Jericho had a good match.

Kingston, even with the injury and pre-fight attacks lost too easily considering where he is being pushed, a Triple H or a Shawn Michaels would need a 20 man pre-match run-in to lose that easily.

No Swagger?  Do the dirtsheets speak the truth?

Carlito in a segment with Cena, I'm puzzled, was he being pushed, or just being taught a lesson and squashed for being a pain in the ass.  Up until him getting beaten down I thought he was holding his own, the guy is full of charisma and didn't look out of place in the ring with Cena, maybe its because he beat Cena in his 1st ever WWE match.

During the opening segment and talk of TLC I was left wondering, imagine if Edge hadn't been injured?

Edge & Jericho vs. Michaels and Triple H in a TLC match is a DREAM bout!

[Hammy]

A solid show for the most part.

Maybe its because I'm getting in the Christmas mood and I'm happy but I thought the D-X segment backstage was fun.  Masters face turn, although goofy could work, he's hulking up pecking up....

Air Primo are a really good in-ring team, matching attire and a team name and I'd be happy.

This Cuban fellow was pretty, good, enthusiastic and for the most part came across as a big fan.

Although I liked the continued Sheamus vs Cena build, the ending didn't quite, well work.  I mean firstly, Sheamus pushed Cuban, a push, and he was laying down and out cold, off a friggin push.  Now Sheamus taking out Cena and then putting Cuban through a table like that was cool, but then, Cuban's players/teamates or whatever they were jumped the barrier to help out Cuban, I'm sorry but why didn't they do that before he got put through a table, after their appearance earlier in the night everyone knew they were ringside and readily available to help out, it's little things like that which just look dumb.

[Axl4Life]

Looks like a Chris Masters Face turn could be a success. The crowd was really behind him.

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When did this face turn of Masters' even happen? People just seemed to have started cheering him. Is it from that show when Ozzy was the host??

[Hammy]

When did this face turn of Masters' even happen? People just seemed to have started cheering him. Is it from that show when Ozzy was the host??

Looks like it, the "Pec Thing" has done it.

I remember how people say Cena got his rapping gimmick cos he did it in the locker room and creative heard or noticed it.

I wonder if Masters was showing off one day and then....

....Although didn't the other month they tease a Chavo face turn when he saved Hornswoggle from Masters?  Have they just done a complete 180 and switched the roles here, well and added Eve, I smell a romance angle.