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Re: Hulk Hogan Signs with TNA!
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2009, 05:56:57 pm »
Nah, thats just normal bullshit teasing... it doesn't get bigger than Hogan unless The Rock or Stone Cold signed

I think its a great idea. This could easily double or even triple their ratings cause Raw gets close to a 4.0

so if most of the Raw fans tune in to see Hogan, they will get to see Kurt Angle and AJ and Samoa and all the great wrestlers.

If it doesn't work, **** it, u still got the same roster u had before.

It isn't like they brought in another "old guy" they brought in the most famous, biggest drawing wrestler ever.
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Re: Hulk Hogan Signs with TNA!
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2009, 07:03:07 pm »
Well it is bringing another old guy in.... yes he is one of the greatest ever but do you think he still is?

I would welcome Hogan in a commisioner role, and a Angle vs Hogan mini feud would be a great watch.

If Hogan was to win the title i'd think its the end for TNA and that would alinate alot of **** TNA fans.

What makes me laugh is that TNA seem to heading towards the WWE way of thinking i.e. Names before performance.

This is not like getting Hogan at nWo era.... its a good 14 years on and for him to step in a ring will take alot and to compete at TNA's level is nearly impossible.

Nash, Steiner, Sting, Foley, Dudleys and Now Hogan..... its just a bit much for me. You could probally have Hogan, Sting & the Dudleys and get away with it but all of them is just too many names without substance.

I hope it does boost TNA's viewers to give guys like AJ, MCMG, Joe & Hernandez the credit and exposure they deserve. But i feel that TNA is almost playing WWE at its own game and that just won't work.

The way to beat WWE is to create a bonafide star that sends shatters through the wrestling world the way that Goldberg did in WCW or create matches that make you watch like ECW did and TNA did at its dawn. Not take a former WWE guy that WWE don't need anymore.
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Re: Hulk Hogan Signs with TNA!
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2009, 10:36:18 pm »
It looks as if Hulk Hogan’s role in TNA will be as the booker, if Bubba The Love Sponge’s Twitter page is anything to go by.

On his page, Hogan is continually referred to as “the boss” and when asked what role Hogan will play in TNA, Bubba said, “he is the Booker. Period. Saw it in his contract”. He also added that “Terry and Eric won’t make the same mistakes that they made at WCW.”


Press Conference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GbQy5jbgYw&feature=player_embedded

Larry King:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca8PJlZMFRk&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1X8VocBF9o&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNUok6f2g_8&feature=player_embedded

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Re: Hulk Hogan Signs with TNA!
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2009, 11:53:24 pm »
if  u read Eric's book ,it was the AOL, Turner merger that killed WCW more than anything else.

True, they may not have drawn 8.0 ratings, but I guarantee they'd still draw i the high 2's, 3's like WWE are.
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Re: Hulk Hogan Signs with TNA!
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2009, 12:30:33 am »
I spoke to a source within TNA this morning that has exclusively informed WrestleZone that Hulk Hogan is in complete creative control of TNA at the moment. His reach in the company even goes beyond Dixie Carter, and at this point the only person Hogan is answering to is Carter's father.

The future of employees such as Vince Russo, Ed Ferrara and others within management have yet to be determined. At this point, they will remain with the company on a trial basis depending on how well they work with Hogan.

Additionally, it's being said that when Vince McMahon heard the news that Hogan had announced his signing with TNA during a press conference at Madison Square Garden, he apparently became furious as he considers MSG to be "his building." It wouldn't surprise most people to see Vince take some kind of action in retaliation to Hogan's signing as he is apparently very angry with the situation.


So he is essentially running things now?  :o

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Re: Hulk Hogan Signs with TNA!
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2009, 03:25:05 am »
I'd take the whole 'Hulk is head booker' thing with a big pinch of salt right now. Many of the bigger names in TNA (like Angle, Foley, Nash & Lashley) have a degree of creative control in their contracts and would have to agree to letting their control go to Hogan, which with the exception of Nash I don't see happening.
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Re: Hulk Hogan Signs with TNA!
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2009, 11:23:00 am »
...and i wanted to see what Russo could do
We already know what he can do. Let him stay in control much longer, you'll have Lindsey Lohan as world champ.



This whole thing has epic fail written all over it. I feel sorry for any young talent in this company. They're all gonna get buried so a few geezers can have one more taste of glory.

Mcmahon needs to use his brain once again and pluck the talent from this carcass while 60 year old men dance around the ring with the belt.

Is Nick Bockwinkle available? He's only 75. He can resume his feud with Hogan.


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If it doesn't work, **** it, u still got the same roster u had before.
You're old school enough to know that's not how it works. While a suspension of disbelief is required, it's a fine line between entertainment and insulting peoples intelligence. Hogan wiping the floor with TNA talent will turn viewers off in droves. Mark my words. It will also cause talent that's getting buried to leave when their contracts are up.

I predict an initial ratings boost, and if Hogan wrestles and actually starts beating this company's main talent, ratings will plummet and never recover. If it gets low enough, Mcmahon will walk in and buy the company just so he can kill it.

You TNA fans should be careful what you wish for....
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Re: Hulk Hogan Signs with TNA!
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2009, 11:25:39 am »
The way to beat WWE is to create a bonafide star that sends shatters through the wrestling world the way that Goldberg did in WCW or create matches that make you watch like ECW did and TNA did at its dawn. Not take a former WWE guy that WWE don't need anymore.
Exactly, and its funny that they don't realize this.

TNA is going for short term success and its going to bite them on the ass.
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Re: Hulk Hogan Signs with TNA!
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2009, 01:02:51 pm »
It's odd - but my interest in TNA may have actually ended this week

I'm far to young to have seen Hogan in his prime - he's just an old man to me, Austin and The Rock are the stars I know

I don't want to see Hogan have anything more than a superficial TNA role

if he's involved in creative I walk. I don't have time for a second bad wrestling brand, I'd just resign myself to WWE - it may be rubbish, but it's deliberate and organised
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Re: Hulk Hogan Signs with TNA!
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2009, 03:13:59 pm »
I think everyone should wait and see how this pans out.

If used properly his signing is great for drawing attention to the company.

Let's not forget this company has made Matt Morgan a bona fide star against Kurt Angle, is doing quite well at elevating Hernandez, has AJ Styles on top and Desmond Wolfe debuting and taking out Angle in his first appearance, something you would never see in WWE, taking out someone so big.

If he puts over young talent like this, it can work, heck Booker T is gone, rumour has it Steiner is off and Sting's absent for a while.

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Re: Hulk Hogan Signs with TNA!
« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2009, 12:34:05 pm »
This past Thursday night’s TNA iMPACT with the Hulk Hogan announcement scored a 1.3 cable rating, up about 20% from previous weeks. iMPACT this week went up against the World Series, college basketball and the NBA.

Nice little increase considering he wasn't in the Impact Zone and they were merely slotting in highlights from the Press Conference.  Brother!

I'm clearly watching too much nWo at the moment but I really want him and Bischoff to come in as heels  :D

Also, an insight into what Bischoff thought of the company when interviewed by The Sun earlier this year...

What was the thinking behind doing CCW? Surely you and Hulk could have made a lot of money by going to TNA or even going back to work for WWE?

Neither one of us were interested in TNA. It's a small organisation that doesn't have very much vision...There was nothing exciting there for Hulk or myself.

Have TNA approached you at all about working for them? What would be your advice to them if they want become a true challenger to the WWE like WCW was?

There's no vision for that company...They are people who have never been to the dance. They've never been a part, really, of any of the decision-making processes that led to the success of the industry. For me to sit down and say "listen guys, this is what you have to do to be successful" would be like telling a three-year-old how to fly an aeroplane. You can try all you want, they're never going to get it.
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Re: Hulk Hogan Signs with TNA!
« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2009, 03:40:54 pm »
Will be very interesting how they work this out..... Maybe a battle between Kurt and Hulk over who the real Godfather is

could have some amazing shoot/verbal jousts etc Plus no one better in the world for Hogan to work with than someone like Kurt Angle who can make me look amazing in the ring i bet.

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Re: Hulk Hogan Signs with TNA!
« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2009, 04:10:27 pm »
Hogan didnt look too bad - (well, not Ric Flair bad)

As he couldnt wrestle in his prime he cant have lost anything

A heel Hogan in the GM role would work - but his indept booking style would doom TNA

...and Bischoff's ''genius'' consisted on of a single idea (NWO) and stealing WWF's wrestlers - guy knows no more about wrestling that anyone u can pick at random

...he believes fatal four ways are a clusterfuck but who was it that came up with WW3?!
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Re: Hulk Hogan Signs with TNA!
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2009, 12:01:21 am »


There's no vision for that company...They are people who have never been to the dance. They've never been a part, really, of any of the decision-making processes that led to the success of the industry. For me to sit down and say "listen guys, this is what you have to do to be successful" would be like telling a three-year-old how to fly an aeroplane. You can try all you want, they're never going to get it.

Yep, this has clusterfuck written all over it.  Its the equivalent of telling the world you hate black licorice, then immediately proceeding to eat several cases of it.
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Re: Hulk Hogan Signs with TNA!
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2009, 11:11:59 pm »
Although we reported that this past Thursday's edition of TNA Impact finished with a 1.3 cable rating, which is up from the previous week's 1.1 number, it should be noted that the Hulk Hogan video which aired on the program was part of the lowest rated quarter hour of the show. The final quarter hour of the show, which contained the video, drew a 1.18.

The following is from the official Facebook page of former TNA employee Jerry Jarrett:

The hot news currently is all about Hulk Hogan and Eric Bishoff signing with TNA. I sincerely wish them well and from the one comment I read, Hulk might be able to bring a positive shift to the company. Hulk stated that he wants to help the new talent learn and appreciate the "Art of Professional Wrestling". If he is allowed to do this, the product will greatly improve and it will be positive for the business.

The "Art of Professional Wrestling" has been lost recently and I place the blame squarly on the shoulders of the promoters of the business. Wrestling talent currently is over-produced to the point that most wrestlers are reduced to trying to be actors, (which most are not) by giving scripted interviews and robotic matches. To make matters worse, the scripts are written by producers who don't have a clue what professional wrestling is all about.

In about five years the business changed and in my opinion for the worst. I discovered in 2002, when we started TNA, that the heart of the business had been removed and all that remained was the illusion of professional wrestling. I walked in the building in Huntsville, Ala. to find the ring filled with wrestlers rehearsing every move that they planned to make during their match. I watched as wrestlers sat reading and memorizing interviews. I was dumbfounded when I discovered that basic principals of the business were alien to the new wrestlers. I felt that I was talking in a foreign language. What is heat? What is a ring general? What is selling? What do you mean when you say listen to the fans?

I was told after I broke into this business that it was our duty to teach the new talent the "Art of Professional Wrestling".I was told when we began TNA that the business had changed and it was not possible to go back to that art form. I have my personal excuses for not going in that direction, but I regret not trying and this is why I truly hope Terry can do what I could not do.

The business today has truly changed. The new wrestlers are taught in "training camps", or wrestling schools. It seems to me that if you put twenty wrestlers in a school and one man teaches them all, they would tend to be somewhat clones of each other. Wrestlers should be taught the business by other wrestlers in live situations. A student who goes to a wrestling school will learn everything he is going to lean at the school in 90 days. He will never advance until he learns from veteran wrestlers in live match situations. Far too much emphases is placed on in ring work anyway. I think this is the result of wrestling websites, written by people who have never had a match, telling wrestlers that they have a 5 star match or a 2 star match. I'd guess that Hulk Hogan has never been given one 5 star match rating in his career. I'd also bet that he had drawn more money in the wrestling business than all the 5 star rated wrestles combined.

Superstars of the wrestling business become Superstars because of their personalities and not because of their in-ring wrestling abliity. Verbal skills are much more important that physical skills when it comes to drawing money in this business. You don't develop verbal skills in a talent by writing a script and allowing the talent to read his lines. How can a writer of these interview scripts not produce clone interviews? The unique personalities of wrestlers are hidden and only the thoughts of this one writer are expressed.

The uniqueness of professional wrestling and it's great public appeal is based on the interaction of personalities of the talent. To not understand this concept is to fail. If you take a walk in your memory and remember the great stars of professional wrestling, you will find that you best remember the personality and not the matches of these stars.

So Terry, good luck in your efforts. You have a big job in front of you.

Jerry