Best & Worst Submission Moves

[Axl4Life]

Loved the Edgecator, the inverted Sharpshooter that Edge used to do. First good submission that springs to mind actually. I always thought it was a more realistic version of the Sharpshooter.

[Hammy]

Zeke Jackson does an AWFUL Torture Rack.  Bryan's Lebell Lock is one of the best ones going at the moment though.  SNAP or TAP!

[BlowUpYourVideo]

I don't quite get the Torture Rack. You're just kinda lying over the other dude's shoulders. Maybe if you were lying horizontally across them it could hurt, but whenever I've seen it (admittedly, mainly by Big Zeke), the guy's lying sideways...

Still, it was impressive when he managed to apply it to The Great Khali...

[Hammy]

I don't quite get the Torture Rack. You're just kinda lying over the other dude's shoulders. Maybe if you were lying horizontally across them it could hurt, but whenever I've seen it (admittedly, mainly by Big Zeke), the guy's lying sideways...

I always liked Luger doing it.  One of my faves.  Zeke always does a weak looking version.

The principle is one hand is around the jaw, one around the leg, and he is yanking down, so essentially trying to pull the head and leg off, thats the basic theory anyway, hence its meant to be...torture...

[D]

Favorites:
1.Luger's Torture rack was the ****.
2.Scott Steiner Steiner Recliner. his arms were so huge.. looked massive
3.Bret Hart Sharp Shooter
4. Ted Dibiase Million Dollar Dream
5. I think Undertaker's Hells Gate is cool as hell also
6.Ken Shamrock's Ankle lock.. U never knew if he'd actually go nuts and snap it.
7.Benoit Crippler Crossface
8. Baron Von raschke  "Claw"

Least
1. any standard sleeper hold.
2. Agree figure four has outlived its effectiveness
3. Cena's STFU sucks.

[BlowUpYourVideo]

I know it was mentioned in this thread already (exactly two years ago as it happens ), but The Walls Of Jericho became a simple Boston Crab over time. The original version looked more different and cooler.

[Hammy]

I know it was mentioned in this thread already (exactly two years ago as it happens ), but The Walls Of Jericho became a simple Boston Crab over time. The original version looked more different and cooler.

I NEVER understood the change.  I remember when it first started happen, it was sort of in a botched way, like he didn't mean to but the guy was too big.  All I can guess, is when he did it in WCW, perfectly, it was nearly always on cruiserweights, often on smaller guys, and in WWE, trying to put it on a Big Show....Batista....Kane etc. just doesn't work to well, that's my only guess.  But yeah it was awesome when it was known as....The Liontamer!

[D]

I remember his feud with Kane and how awkward terrible in looked when he tried to do it...