Future WWE Game Discussion & Ideas Thread

[Hammy]

Now I know you loose points by loosing by DQ (its a cheap loss) how come you don't loose points by a countout loss then? I mean afteral Unless a wrestlers taps or gets pins they are being cheap and saving face.

Not all countouts are intentional (ie. Ziggler over Kane a few weeks ago). Then again, neither are all DQs I guess....

Who put that steel chair in my hand.... 

True there are some accidental ones, or ones where guys are tricked into it, or end up being via someone else running in, but for the most part, they are way more intentional than getting counted out.

[More Cowbell]

How about adding +2 lumberjacks get for managers, so lets say someone has a diva or a fetus 2.0 who occpanies the wrestler to the ring, heck sometimes they help them win, how about giving out the points for a manager if they are ringside for a wrestling match as I know we only do wrestling matches and managers/divas/fluffers help out  a lot.

[Hammy]

Based on current discussion, here's the place to continue talking about the "Retain Points" query.

[BlowUpYourVideo]

I think it should be kept as it is. Winning by countout isn't the same as by pin/submission. Take the ShowMiz/Cena and Batista match on Raw. ShoMiz didn't really 'beat' Cena and Batista, since they were busy fighting each other on the ramp.

Obviously all cases are different, but I don't think retaining by DQ/countout should have the same mumber of points as retaining by pin/submission.

[More Cowbell]

Ok commrads I been thinking long and hard and got two ideas.

Wrestlemania. Huge PPV. i was think for an event like that to make it cross into two games. you could do the same with summer slam. some teams are out of it from a winning perspective and with two teams you may be rooting for someone for you to win the current game but it could cost you the next game. just with the huge ppv I think it could add to the excitement of the ppvs and to the game.


the next idea is to either change the game language to staight "retain a title by pinfall or submission +20 points, retain by any other means +5"  

[Gnrfan]

the next idea is to either change the game language to staight "retain a title by pinfall or submission +20 points, retain by any other means +5"  

I would go a step further and say that if the champion's win.... no matter how, they get full retain points.

If the champs get DQ/Counted Out then the "Leave as champion" points of +5 should be awarded.

Champions are vital in this game and i find it funny that a Babyface can be battering someone and the Heel walks away and they don't get full points. seems wrong.

I think that has to be changed!

[BlowUpYourVideo]

If the champs get DQ/Counted Out then the "Leave as champion" points of +5 should be awarded.

But sometimes there's never a clear winner announced and then all we have to rely on is wwe.com.. There could be controversy....

[More Cowbell]

Ok so CLash of the Champions each Fall. Champions merge for a undisputed world titles, non winners join up for a battle for their first world title.

COTC League


Hammy (x4) - WWE Game II, VIII, XI, XIV (RAW)
D (x3) - WWE Game III, V, IX
Gnrfan (x2) (SOON 3X) - WWE Game VI, XIII
More Cowbell (x2) (Soon 3X) - WWE Game VII, XII
Malcolm (x2) - WWE Game IV, X
slashsfro (x1) - WWE Game XIV (Nitro)
Evolution X1


Break Thru League

EricxGNRxSTARx:
BlowUpYourVideo:
Izzy:
Yankee1012:
AtariLegend
miss_perfection
Jim:
Rankin:
Timothy:
James Lofton:
Scotta75

I wouldn't be opposed to letting someone like Blowup, being put into the COTC league to make 8 unless Yankee wins Nitro
if people wanted the leagues evened out a little more.

I think this would spark more interest as part time players would have their best chance of winning, and once a year the champs get together to
show who is the COTC Winner. If you are in favor of this idea reply back in this thread,

[Gnrfan]

Ok so CLash of the Champions each Fall. Champions merge for a undisputed world titles, non winners join up for a battle for their first world title.

COTC League


Hammy (x4) - WWE Game II, VIII, XI, XIV (RAW)
D (x3) - WWE Game III, V, IX
Gnrfan (x2) (SOON 3X) - WWE Game VI, XIII
More Cowbell (x2) (Soon 3X) - WWE Game VII, XII
Malcolm (x2) - WWE Game IV, X
slashsfro (x1) - WWE Game XIV (Nitro)
Evolution X1


Break Thru League

EricxGNRxSTARx:
BlowUpYourVideo:
Izzy:
Yankee1012:
AtariLegend
miss_perfection
Jim:
Rankin:
Timothy:
James Lofton:
Scotta75

I wouldn't be opposed to letting someone like Blowup, being put into the COTC league to make 8 unless Yankee wins Nitro
if people wanted the leagues evened out a little more.

I think this would spark more interest as part time players would have their best chance of winning, and once a year the champs get together to
show who is the COTC Winner. If you are in favor of this idea reply back in this thread,

What! i'm up for the champions league, but it shouldn't be the next league. I think it should probally given more of a chance and see if we get more winners. Plus i think the champions game should be this current longer game.

Also this "break-out" league is weak IMO. Whoever wins.... won't get any respect off people like D coz he'll always say " all the best people aren't playing "... so to me thats a little point less.

I say rather than split it.... just put everyone in one league and pick 4.

I think this needs a much more in-depth look... as i'm not sure i think its that great an idea at present. I like the idea of a supergame... but you have to be fair to everyone that plays. not sure this is.

[Hammy]

miss_perfection: Edge, Maryse, Darren Young, Evan Bourne
Jim: John Cena, Ted DiBiase, Wade Barrett, Mark Henry
Gnrfan: The Miz, R-Truth, Cody Rhodes, David Hart Smith
Rankin: Chris Jericho, Beth Phoenix, Luke Gallows, Justin Gabriel
Evolution: Christian, Layla, Alicia Fox, Tyson Kidd
Hammy: Big Show, Jimmy Uso, Heath Slater, Jules Uso
Timothy: CM Punk, Kane, MVP, Skip Sheffield
Scotta75: Triple H, Daniel Bryan, Santino Marella, Ezekiel Jackson
More Cowbell: Undertaker, Gail Kim, David Otunga, Yoshi Tatsu
D: Randy Orton, Goldust, Michael Tarver, Natalya
Yankee1012: Drew McIntyre, Titus O'Neil, Trent Barreta, Kaval
nightrain: John Morrison, Michael McGillicutty, Lucky Cannon, JTG
Izzy: Sheamus, Husky Harris, Vladimir Kozlov, Hornswoggle
AtariLegend: Kofi Kingston, Alex Riley, Chris Masters, William Regal
slashsfro: Rey Mysterio, Shad Gaspard, Eve Torres, Tiffany
BlowUpYourVideo: Dolph Ziggler, Matt Hardy, Michelle McCool, Caylen Croft
EricxGNRxSTARx: Jack Swagger, Vance Archer, Curt Hawkins, Zach Ryder

Leftover Roster
Brie Bella, Jillian, Nikki Bella, Primo, Tamina, The Great Khali, Chavo Guerrero, Finlay, Kelly Kelly, Rosa Mendes, Eli Cottonwood, Percy Watson.

That's an example of the 4 man game, don't take the teams to heart, they would be more balanced, I'm just giving an idea of how numbers work, and that's how many would be left over.  Now if we were to do it as a "TNA Game" where you are allowed one Tna dude, per team, that could work, maybe.

[Gnrfan]

miss_perfection: Edge, Maryse, Darren Young, Evan Bourne
Jim: John Cena, Ted DiBiase, Wade Barrett, Mark Henry
Gnrfan: The Miz, R-Truth, Cody Rhodes, David Hart Smith
Rankin: Chris Jericho, Beth Phoenix, Luke Gallows, Justin Gabriel
Evolution: Christian, Layla, Alicia Fox, Tyson Kidd
Hammy: Big Show, Jimmy Uso, Heath Slater, Jules Uso
Timothy: CM Punk, Kane, MVP, Skip Sheffield
Scotta75: Triple H, Daniel Bryan, Santino Marella, Ezekiel Jackson
More Cowbell: Undertaker, Gail Kim, David Otunga, Yoshi Tatsu
D: Randy Orton, Goldust, Michael Tarver, Natalya
Yankee1012: Drew McIntyre, Titus O'Neil, Trent Barreta, Kaval
nightrain: John Morrison, Michael McGillicutty, Lucky Cannon, JTG
Izzy: Sheamus, Husky Harris, Vladimir Kozlov, Hornswoggle
AtariLegend: Kofi Kingston, Alex Riley, Chris Masters, William Regal
slashsfro: Rey Mysterio, Shad Gaspard, Eve Torres, Tiffany
BlowUpYourVideo: Dolph Ziggler, Matt Hardy, Michelle McCool, Caylen Croft
EricxGNRxSTARx: Jack Swagger, Vance Archer, Curt Hawkins, Zach Ryder

Leftover Roster
Brie Bella, Jillian, Nikki Bella, Primo, Tamina, The Great Khali, Chavo Guerrero, Finlay, Kelly Kelly, Rosa Mendes, Eli Cottonwood, Percy Watson.

That's an example of the 4 man game, don't take the teams to heart, they would be more balanced, I'm just giving an idea of how numbers work, and that's how many would be left over.  Now if we were to do it as a "TNA Game" where you are allowed one Tna dude, per team, that could work, maybe.

yeah i see that, but as fun as a game of champions would be.... it just makes the otehr league worthless IMO.

I personally think the leagues are working well. yes some leagues are more competeitve than others but thats always been the case. I can't remember which game but someone won by a mile before we split the game. Its not a new thing.

If a league of champions is gonna happen then thats fine, but lets wait and not condem the way its setup after just two games! And if we are to do a champions game it should be a long one as i think they are the more prestigious.

Personally i'd prefer to win a long game the way its setup at the moment than a short game with all the champions in.

[D]

I just think there has to be a more fair way to split things up.

There are those that really compete and try to win down to the final event, and then there are those who don't touch their team after drafting is over

so i say we make sure there are an even amount in each league.

cause right now, everyone in Nitro are playing hard

u look at Raw and there are several players with injured/released wrestlers still on their roster.

[Gnrfan]

I just think there has to be a more fair way to split things up.

There are those that really compete and try to win down to the final event, and then there are those who don't touch their team after drafting is over

so i say we make sure there are an even amount in each league.

cause right now, everyone in Nitro are playing hard

u look at Raw and there are several players with injured/released wrestlers still on their roster.

I'm gonna disagree with you.

We have two players who started badly and couldn't be bothered. But you make out like every position is decided with two months to go.

And just for reference those two players were the bottom two in your league last time out and one of them had Haas for most of the game despite being released. There was no complaints then!

Those two players drafted awefully and have paid the price..... Thats the game!

Now admittedly my team has got a good lead, but aside from the bottom two everyone else has something to play for. There is like 50 points between 4th and 7th. Hammy is chasing Evo down and Evo is chasing me down.

Admittedly Scotta and Lofton could use their money (and i wish as a whole more people got involved with the bidding) but so could Izzy and Atari in your league.

If we had played 6 games and all of them had the same people winning then i'd agree, but we are 1 and half games in.

Personally i thought that RAW Vol 1 was more competitive than Nitro Vol 1. Ok the top two were closer on Nitro, but aside from that it didn't offer much. As where RAW saw 2 thru 6 change every week and we had a former multi-time champ finishing last. So that blows your theroys out of the water as bottom of your league had a rookie victor.

Thats the nature of the random draw..... it will go back and forth.

Like i said i'm not against the champions game.... but lets not rush into saying "This isn't working" coz i believe we have a game where people can play their own way. Lets just take our time with it.... for all we know Scotta and Lofton could win the next RAW and Nitro leagues.

And if we are gonna do a champions league, lets say "in three games time" lets not decided half way through a game that we will do it next league. I don't wanna get back into that whole "A League and B League" thing, coz for me if i dropped into that B League i'd lose all interest.... at least this way if you have a bad game.... you could end up champion in the next league. Rather than winning "The Breakout League"... its like the ECW title in WWE.... It means **** all.

[D]

I actually have been complaining behind the scenes for awhile. didn't want to call out or make anybody feel bad about their performance or what not.

Plus last game was the FIRST GAME we have done this.. so its hard to complain during the first game.

but as things become pattern, its time to speak publicly on it.

i am taking nothing away from your imminent victory. u are a proven great player.. i am just talking in the future. cause to be honest, I feel a lot better when i win a title against u and Hammy and Cwobell etc then when i beat people who have never won. thats just me though.

[More Cowbell]

I dont think the breakout league would mean any less, as its not like once a yaerd you could do shitty and go into the breakout league and cheese a title, once you are a world champion you never would be allowed to compete in a breakout league. I think a superleague is a terrible idea and will not spark more interest in the game as you have less options for talent and then also with 1 or 2 front runners you have 15 people who could be out of it, the 2 leagues give more opportunity and chances to win, I wouldnt demeand someone for winning the breakout league or try and call it loess then a world title, they would be battling a group OF THEIR PIERS. Non world champions so the winner of that league would make it a world champion.

I am all about getting more people interested and joining the game, I think the break out league and the clash of the champions league would be perfect, when the game is done there is a gaurenteed new world champion and the new champion would never be allowed to play in a breakout league in the future as he would join the ranks of the elites. Dont knock the idea, we need new blood and my idea is the best idea to get new blood, I aint talking about promotions or demotions or A leagues or Bullshit leagues, I am simply suggesting we break all the champions off for 1 game and all the non champions for one game, at the end of this game we go back to Nitro and Raw.


**** a superleague do you know how long a draft would take in the superleague with 17 people hell you might be making 1 pick a week that wont keep people interested.