UFC Thread

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Im so excited and nervous for this

u guys just don't understand my idol worship for Tito.

[Hammy]

u guys just don't understand my idol worship for Tito.

We do, thats why whenever he loses you break out more excuses than he does 

[Hammy]

Parisyan pulled out, Dana said he's **** the UFC and its fans for the last time, he is gone, for good.

Gutted!  That fight would have been a show stealer, Dustin is one of my fave young fighters and Parisyan has always been a fave to, this sucks on numerous levels!

[D]

Tito looked great and intense at the weigh in

[Hammy]

Good card unfortunately losing a fight late on they had to repeat 3 prelims during the Main Card, clearly they thought the Caol Uno fight was too much of a snoozefest.

What was the deal with Koscheck holding his left eye, that looked really dodgy!

Griffin definately won but it'd be cool to see a 3rd match when Ortiz is in better shape, it sucks he always has injury problems because it looks bad with him making excuses time and again.  You could tell though that something was wrong, he looked so rigid and far worse on his feet than in the past, his striking has never been wonderful, but still, hopefully he can get his **** together!

Paulo Thiago's fight was a nice surprise, great back and forth battle, really enjoyed it, fans really do boo too quickly.

Lil Nog looked superb and made top contender Cane look like a nobody!

Saunders has some sick knees, great sub for Grove as well!

Can't wait til the next card WAR MIR!

[Hammy]

It was no Machida vs. "Shogun," but judging once again became the center of attention following a UFC main event.

Immediately after Forrest Griffin was awarded a split-decision victory in the main event of Saturday night's "UFC 106: Ortiz vs. Griffin II," the third-straight UFC feature bout to receive at least one questionable score, UFC president Dana White was forced to try and explain how the final score was reached.

"The fight could have gone either way," White said. "(But) 30-27? I mean that's crazy."

White was referring to the official scorecard of judge Lester Griffin, who awarded Forrest all three rounds of the fight, resulting in the 30-27 total.

"The 30-27 score is outrageous," White said. "It's insane."

White considered the opening frame of the fight the closest of the the three rounds. Griffin landed the better shots on the feet and fended off two takedown attempts, while Ortiz scored an early takedown and landed a few blows before his opponent escaped to the feet.

"It was a close first round," White said. "The first round was tough to score. As soon as that fight was over, all of us that were sitting down were like, 'That was a tough round to score.'"

Judges Glenn Trowbridge and Marcos Rosales each awarded the first frame to Ortiz, 10-9, effectively placing Forrest in the hole after the first five minutes.

White thought the second frame, which featured two Ortiz takedowns and elbow strikes from the top that cut Griffin, was much easier to score.

"Tito clearly won the second round," White said.

Unfortunately for Ortiz, only Trowbridge agreed. Judges Griffin and Rosales each awarded Forrest the round with a score of 10-9.

The final round was clearly Griffin's, and the one-sided nature of the frame left a 10-8 score for the original winner of "The Ultimate Fighter" a real possibility. None of three judges felt inclined to do so, and each penciled in a 10-9 score for Griffin.

"I can understand Forrest getting a 10-8 in that last round," White said. "He dominated that round, and Tito hardly threw any punches that last round. But for anybody to call that fight 30-27, you're out of your mind."

Ortiz, who won the close first round but lost the second in what White felt was a frame clearly in the "Huntington Beach Bad Boy's" favor, felt he had been wronged.

"I thought I won," Ortiz said. "I thought I won the first round, and I thought I won the second round. I got two takedowns. You saw the damage on his face. I got him good."

For Griffin and Ortiz, the split-decision result was the second such instance in the pair's two fights. A rubber match will likely ensue, and the contest will result in a nice payday for each fighter. But when focusing on the big picture, the fight is another instance in which both fighters, promoters and fans clearly are unsure what the judges are watching.

White said he realizes there is a real need for improvement in scoring, but he clarified that the process isn't in his hands.

"Believe me, you're preaching to the choir here," White said. "There's nothing worse than when guys go out and train hard for a fight and lose fights that they won. It drives me nuts.

"That has nothing to do with me, though. The best thing we're doing on our side is that we've got Marc Ratner, and Marc Ratner is out there trying to work with these guys everyday to make it better. I mean, when you watch a fight like this tonight and hear a 30-27 score (for Griffin), I mean – I don't even know. I'm just so exhausted by this whole thing. It's tiring. It's terrible."

White said the controversies regarding recent bouts between Lyoto Machida and Mauricio "Shogun" Rua as well as Randy Couture and Brandon Vera are particularly frustrating because many people feel the UFC executive is involved in the process.

"You should see the emails I get," White said. "'You scumbag. You're just like Don King.' I get literally hundreds of them.

"It's crazy, but that's what people think. People think we pick (fighters) to win or lose and tell the commissions to do it. It couldn't be further from the truth."

For fans hoping for some type of judging reform, White recommends contacting the athletic commissions with demands for change.

"I don't know what to say," White admitted. "If everyone wants to call the (Nevada State) Athletic Commission and talk to (executive director) Keith Kizer – he's the guy you have to ask questions to, not me. ... The reality is you guys have to call Keith Kizer. Call Keith Kizer and asked him what we can to do to fix this judging and scoring.
 
"These athletic commissions need to start looking at this and figuring out what they're going to do. It's wrong."

[Hammy]

Main Card
Heavyweight bout: Roy Nelson vs. Brendan Schaub
Light Heavyweight bout: Matt Hamill vs. Jon Jones
Catchweight (215 lb) bout: Kimbo Slice vs. Houston Alexander
Lightweight bout: Frank Edgar vs. Matt Veach
Heavyweight bout: Marcus Jones vs. Matt Mitrione

Preliminary Card
Heavyweight bout: Darrill Schoonover vs. James McSweeney
Heavyweight bout: Jon Madsen vs. Justin Wren
Light Heavyweight bout: Brian Stann vs. Rodney Wallace
Welterweight bout: John Howard vs. Dennis Hallman
Lightweight bout: Mark Bocek vs. Joe Brammer

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Main Card
Lightweight Championship bout: BJ Penn (c) vs. Diego Sanchez
Heavyweight bout: Frank Mir vs. Cheick Kongo
Welterweight bout: Jon Fitch vs. Mike Pierce
Lightweight bout: Kenny Florian vs. Clay Guida
Heavyweight bout: Paul Buentello vs. Stefan Struve

Preliminary Card
Middleweight bout: Alan Belcher vs. Wilson Gouveia
Lightweight bout: Matt Wiman vs. Shane Nelson
Welterweight bout: Johny Hendricks vs. Ricardo Funch
Middleweight bout: Rousimar Palhares vs. Lucio Linhares
Welterweight bout: DaMarques Johnson vs. Edgar Garcia
Welterweight bout: Kevin Burns vs. TJ Grant

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Tito got robbed

here me out


2 Judges gave Tito round 1

the judge who gave Tito round 1 gave round 2 to Forrest

that is just ignorant. If u think Tito won round 1, how could u not give him round 2 cause Tito was way more dominant in round 2.

[Hammy]

Frank Mir commenting on this season:

"I don't even know what's going on, I had to turn it off. I'm being serious. It was bad. Some of the fights were horrible. I haven't seen any fights in the WEC that could ever amount to being that bad, because the lighter guys are just more competitive. They're in shape, they're more strategic. Even when you go to a college wrestling match, typically, the heavyweights are boring to watch.... I'm a heavyweight and I'm saying... (the fights are) nowhere near as exciting as the lightweights."

[Hammy]

Decent card!

Edgar, Jones (Jon), Nelson, Houston and Jones (Marcus) for the wins!

[Hammy]

I liked the double bill finale, finally the show was entertaining, Marcus and McSweeney took their eye off the ball in their fights.

[Hammy]

Decent finale.

The big talking point though, Kimbo, has he improved, yes, is he ever going to be a Top 10 fighter?  No.  For the most part he still looked very uncomfortable on the ground, his submission attempts and attempts to control his opponent made me wonder how much he really has worked on his ground game.  That slam though looked immense, the guy has power, or maybe it was the contrast because essentially is was a Heavyweight vs. Light Heavyweight match-up.

[Hammy]

Spike TV has announced that The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) Season 11 will debut on March 31, 2010, and feature a 16-man roster of middleweights vying for a "six-figure contract" under the tutelage of former TUF Coaches and bitter rivals Chuck Liddell and Tito Ortiz.

Both fighters are coming off back-to-back losses and are a far cry from where they were in their respective careers during their initial run as TUF Coaches.

"The Iceman" was steering the ship opposite Randy Couture in Season 1 of the Spike TV reality show. Liddell went on to defeat "The Natural" at UFC 52 during his storied run as UFC light heavyweight champion.

Ortiz on the other hand took over the reigns for Season 3 against Ken Shamrock. "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" defeated Shammy at UFC 61 to claim his fourth straight victory inside the Octagon.



Liddell and Ortiz have met twice under the Zuffa banner, with the icy one claiming a TKO stoppage in both encounters. While most of the heat that surrounded their feud has long since dissipated, expect a new rivalry to emerge after squaring off in Season 11 of TUF.

The middleweight cast should provide a refreshing change from the cardio-challenged heavyweights that "fought" on Season 10. Stay tuned for an announcement to reveal the cast members in the coming weeks.

Liddell and Ortiz will fight for a third time at the conclusion of the show -- but does anyone want to pay for the completion of their trilogy? Or should the two legends light up the airwaves via Spike TV?

[Hammy]

Very enjoyable event.  Mir has put on a load of size and looked great in that, ahem, minute twelve seconds 

Penn made Sanchez look like nothing, he is superb at 155, who's next?

Struve won, the booing was wrong, rounds 1 and 3 were his easily and he recovered far too easily for the 2nd to be a 10-8.

Florian looked good, shame Guida is always going to be seen in the entertaining "gatekeeper" role.

Fitch ground out another solid result, Pierce was very tough, he impressed me, especially late on.

Alan Belcher may well have knocked Gouveia out of the company, the result surprised me, question is, can Belcher get some consistency going now.