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Chris Jericho.... WWE in a Crisis?
« on: August 21, 2009, 11:14:44 pm »
Kevin Eck of The Baltimore Sun has an interview up with WWE Unified Tag Team Champion Chris Jericho. Here are some highlights.

On his tag team with Edge ending fast:
"It was disappointing because I think we had a great story line in the works, with a lot of trips and traps that were going to lead to a certain place. But it was one of those things that the moment it happened you’re like, “Well, OK, what are we going to do now? Back to the drawing board.” You can’t do anything about it. It’s part of what we do. So it was very disappointing. And then as soon as I found out that they’re going to push The Big Show, I was intrigued about it. You have to turn a negative into a positive and I think we’ve done that. Everyone said it had to be Dolph Ziggler or The Miz. No, this is about two world champions at the top of their game who have a certain stature. Yeah, it would help them, but it wouldn’t help me. We’re trying to reinvigorate the tag titles and reinvigorate Big Show as well. The guy is a giant. He’s a commodity and people need to be reminded of that and we need to start promoting that."

On his feud with Rey Mysterio this year:
"Well, I’ve worked with Rey for years, but we never had an official program. We worked once or twice in WCW but never worked in WWE. We had worked plenty of times in Japan when we were working for Tenryu. I just thought it would be a great program between the two of us. When they originally proposed it, it was supposed to be for the Backlash pay-per-view [in April], the one where I ended up wrestling [Ricky] Steamboat. I fought it and said we should take our time and build it. I’m very happy with that story line. Each match was better than the last. The finish with the 619 where I pulled the mask off is probably something that you’ll never see again. It was very memorable. As far as feuds go, it’s a close runner-up to Shawn Michaels."

On older talent in WCW not working with younger talent:
"It wasn’t reluctance; it was just denial. They just wouldn’t do it and it [ticked] me off so much because there was a lot of money left on the table. It’s something that I said that I would never do."

On the situation that WWE is in right now:
"We’re in a crisis period in WWE and we need to build new guys. When Shawn Michaels came back to Raw, he said, “Whose been built since I left?” On Smackdown we’ve built [John] Morrison and [Dolph] Ziggler and Cryme Tyme. The Intercontinetal title has been rebuilt now with Rey Mysterio. But I can’t tell you on Raw who has been built over the last six months. They better do it soon, because when this generation of performers is gone, who will replace them?"
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Re: Chris Jericho.... WWE in a Crisis?
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2009, 12:12:00 am »
The problem with wrestling is that alot of the main event guys are 40 or over.

HHH, Taker, HBK, Batista are all on their way out over the next 2 to 4 years. and they have to be replaced before they leave. They still have Edge (35), Jericho (37), Orton (29), Jeff Hardy (31) & Cena (32) but they have to find 4 guys to replace the old guys.

I think its safe to say that CM Punk (30) is one of those guys. Matt Hardy (34), Dibiase (26), MVP (35), Morrison (29), Swagger (27) & Ziggler (29) are amongst the contenders at this point.

so in 10 years you could possibly have Cena, Orton, Jeff Hardy, Dibiase, Morrsion, CM Punk, Swagger & Ziggler with Cena being the vetrean of the group.

Obviously you might get a "Brock Lesnar" or "Randy Orton" come from nowhere and those above may not all stay with the company. But its hard to see the above as a "Golden Era" of wrestling unless someone really breaks out like "The Rock" or "Austin".

We seem to get all these guys appear on ECW as new talent and i feel that the majority don't really get a chance.
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Re: Chris Jericho.... WWE in a Crisis?
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2009, 12:29:22 am »
On the Raw side, Jericho is absolutely correct.  It seems like an unending circle of Cena, HHH, Batista, HBK  and Orton variations in the main event for the past year or so.  They should pull the trigger and elevate MVP, Swagger, and pull the trigger on Dibiase vs Orton pronto.  Gimmicks like Donald Trump buying raw or the Guest GM for a week are short term fixes.  Give some of the undercard guys a run at the main event and see what happens.  If some of them fail so be it, they have a lot more resources to attract potential up and coming wrestliers anyway.  The bad news is that Steph and Vince are knee deep in Raw and probably will screw up any decent idea that comes onto that show.  How I wish Shane was in charge of Raw instead of Stephane.

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Re: Chris Jericho.... WWE in a Crisis?
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2009, 02:37:16 pm »
I means its not like they have any competition at the moment. TNA is not that big of a threat.

Like Slashfro says.... if they try and fail so be it.... but try it.

I'm not saying get rid of HHH, HBK, Cena & Batista.... they all have their role to play in putting the new guys over. But we are in that stage where these guys have to start losing clean to younger guys.

I'll give Cena his props he just does what he is told and you get the feel that he would put people over if the company asked him too. But the other 3 don't do it as much unless its for friends or people who are already beaten fellow main eventers. HHH did it to some degree for Jeff Hardy, but Jeff was already a popular and quite seasoned by then.

I remember Cena & Kurt Angle beating Taker clean... i think Cena actually did it twice. We need guys like Dibiase, Rhodes, Morrsion, Swagger, MVP etc to be getting wins over these main guys. I don't mind if HHH then gets a clean win the next PPV but as long as the young guy gets a clean win from time to time.

I mean take the DX vs Legacy match at SS.... i'm nearly certain that DX will win. But a clean Legacy win would really show the world that these young guys are here to stay and are "in HHH & HBK League".

Maybe they don't have "it" but throw them in the deep end and see if they sink or swim
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Re: Chris Jericho.... WWE in a Crisis?
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2009, 05:31:33 pm »
People think Triple H will be gone in a few years?

Unless he gets injured he'll be deep in his 50's b4 he goes anywhere
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Re: Chris Jericho.... WWE in a Crisis?
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2009, 06:10:37 pm »
People think Triple H will be gone in a few years?

Unless he gets injured he'll be deep in his 50's b4 he goes anywhere

I don't think HHH will be competing for World titles in his 50's i might be wrong but thats what i think.
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Re: Chris Jericho.... WWE in a Crisis?
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2009, 08:32:56 pm »
Lol, the problem isn't who they have...

...it's how they are used

Some exciting angles, new gimmicks, a few shocks - a good feud can make even someone as bad as Mark Henry look intresting and get cheered

Was Austin great or was he just in unbelievably awesome angles? McMahon v Austin - how could u fail?

Kane can't wrestle - a cheap mask and a good opponent and he's got a zillion fans
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Re: Chris Jericho.... WWE in a Crisis?
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2009, 08:53:23 pm »
Lol, the problem isn't who they have...

...it's how they are used

Some exciting angles, new gimmicks, a few shocks - a good feud can make even someone as bad as Mark Henry look intresting and get cheered

Was Austin great or was he just in unbelievably awesome angles? McMahon v Austin - how could u fail?

Kane can't wrestle - a cheap mask and a good opponent and he's got a zillion fans

I think its more about someone who can carry a company on their back. Kane & Mark Henry don't have that ability or charisma to do that.

Austin was just that great. He had it all. As did the Rock, Kurt Angle etc

I understand you can create champions with the right angle... but we are talking superstars with everything that can be as big as guys like Austin, Rock, Hogan & Bret... those four are what all others are marked against IMO
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Re: Chris Jericho.... WWE in a Crisis?
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2009, 09:43:15 am »
With regards to Raw, Jericho is quite right.  Smackdown, however, is a different story.  Smackdown is by far the superior show of all of them.  Better wrestlers, better storylines and better matches.  The Cena, Orton, HHH thing has been stale for quite some time on Raw but Smackdown gives you much more with guys like Ziggler and Morrison in the mix.

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Re: Chris Jericho.... WWE in a Crisis?
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2009, 03:21:06 pm »
U could rebuild Austin, spend billions bringing the Rock back and clone Hogan...

Show would still suck

Austin drinking orange juice, the Rock asking people to kindly quieten down?

Austin was a viscious drunk, the Rock based a career on crude insults - WWE is bland and is it any surprise the wrestlers are?

They can't do any impressive moves, they only face off in 6 man tag matches or pointless nothing on the line scaps

they want intresting characters - give them room to breathe
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