How To Improve Raw?

[Gnrfan]

1/ Scrap The Guest Host BS or at least do it once a month or something instead.

2/ Get Vince Heel

3/ Have a proper stable war. Vince/Shane as the figurehead of a Heel stable with say Jericho as his top guy and maybe someone like Bret as the Face figurehead with say Edge as his top guy.

4/ If DX stays together, cut the amount of screen time they have "Every" week.

5/ Get Jericho back on RAW

6/ Start the Legacy Blow-Up at Survivor Series

7/ After Mania, Send Orton to SD (I like Orton but RAW needs some non-Orton time IMO)

8/ Swagger, Bourne, Miz, MVP, Dibiase, Rhodes needs to find direction or move to different brand.

9/ Dibiase US Title run

10/ Go back to having a heel commentator (Please Oh Please)

[Hammy]

For the past few weeks D-X have been given limited air time and to be honest, even in there filtered down form I still find them to be the most entertaining thing on the show.

Jericho as a Unified Tag Champ is on the show nearly every week anyway.

As for Vince, I'd rather he stayed off my screen for a few years, I'm completely bored of him.

I like the idea of a Stable War, I've always been a fan of such things.

A heel commentator is another favourite thing of mine, but more important than that they just need a good commentator.

The guest host thing works ok when its an Ex-Wrestler/Legend.

[Gnrfan]

For the past few weeks D-X have been given limited air time and to be honest, even in there filtered down form I still find them to be the most entertaining thing on the show.

Its entertaining in the same way as when friends quote funny lines from films. Its funny but highly unoriginal and less funny than they think they are. Two youngish guys acting like that is funny two multi-time champions doesn't have the same effect IMO

Jericho as a Unified Tag Champ is on the show nearly every week anyway.

Yeah but he can't be that forever. I'm not saying right away but the next draft get him on RAW.

As for Vince, I'd rather he stayed off my screen for a few years, I'm completely bored of him.

I like the idea of a Stable War, I've always been a fan of such things.

To me Vince & Shane are extremely entertaining guys and i would love to see them on screen involved in the stable war. Vince could have Jericho, Big Show, Ziggler, Swagger & Drew McIntyre vs A Bret Hart led Stable of Edge, Christian, DH Smith, Tyson Kidd & Evan Bourne or something like that. Both stables have lots of youth and ability in them as well as some great talkers and most importantly doesn't involve lots of big names like Cena, HBK, Batista, Taker, HHH, Orton & CM Punk as well as leaving some good up and comers like Dibiase, Rhodes, Kingston, Miz, Morrison, MVP to their own devices still.

Obviously you can substitute the odd person in each team but i kinda like that idea. You could have the world title picture, a top non-title feud, the US Title picture and then the stable war.... and sometimes they can merge. But my point is that it gives you at least 4 different feuds to tune into every week where at the moment its some DX comedy, DX vs Legacy and World title. Even the US title doesn't always get coverage on RAW.

A heel commentator is another favourite thing of mine, but more important than that they just need a good commentator.

Watching the 1999 RAW Lawler is almost worth tuning in just for him.

The guest host thing works ok when its an Ex-Wrestler/Legend.

But still not every week though. Like i say.... i'd be a fan of a guest GM once a month but more than that is overkill. I think its a great way to get people in though. Like say you want Bret Hart back in thats a great way to do it. He's a guest GM.... Vince comes out talks trash and thats the start of a feud.

[Hammy]

For the past few weeks D-X have been given limited air time and to be honest, even in there filtered down form I still find them to be the most entertaining thing on the show.

Its entertaining in the same way as when friends quote funny lines from films. Its funny but highly unoriginal and less funny than they think they are. Two youngish guys acting like that is funny two multi-time champions doesn't have the same effect IMO

Jericho as a Unified Tag Champ is on the show nearly every week anyway.

Yeah but he can't be that forever. I'm not saying right away but the next draft get him on RAW.

Yeah but we are talking about how to improve the currently poor show, and since he is a part of the currently poor product, clearly he isn't the answer.

To me Vince & Shane are extremely entertaining guys and i would love to see them on screen....

You have to let go of the past at some point, I'll be the first to admit I'm crap at doing that, I like my favourites sticking around, but Vince especially has been an on air talent for so long, I'm just sick of him, talented as he is, Shane I could live with, but even him I'm not too keen on seeing again, rather than thinking, well they were part of things when they were great, lets rehash the past, just try and find NEW on air characters who have their talent.

[Izzy]

Hire Russo!

Wait, typo - Fire Russo

Raw cant be saved with minor details like where Jericho is

Papa Roach theme? Aimed at 10 year olds? Pussycat Dolls stage design?

Raw has to be RAW, doesnt matter who is GM or who is heel or face, if magic cameras and 'Slam Master Jay' are the order of the day its all in vain

[Gnrfan]

For the past few weeks D-X have been given limited air time and to be honest, even in there filtered down form I still find them to be the most entertaining thing on the show.

Its entertaining in the same way as when friends quote funny lines from films. Its funny but highly unoriginal and less funny than they think they are. Two youngish guys acting like that is funny two multi-time champions doesn't have the same effect IMO

Jericho as a Unified Tag Champ is on the show nearly every week anyway.

Yeah but he can't be that forever. I'm not saying right away but the next draft get him on RAW.

Yeah but we are talking about how to improve the currently poor show, and since he is a part of the currently poor product, clearly he isn't the answer.

To me Vince & Shane are extremely entertaining guys and i would love to see them on screen....

You have to let go of the past at some point, I'll be the first to admit I'm crap at doing that, I like my favourites sticking around, but Vince especially has been an on air talent for so long, I'm just sick of him, talented as he is, Shane I could live with, but even him I'm not too keen on seeing again, rather than thinking, well they were part of things when they were great, lets rehash the past, just try and find NEW on air characters who have their talent.

Wrestling is all about re-hashing material. Always has been. How many times have we seen the David vs Goliath storyline. Or the Tag Team fallout one. If you are gonna re-hash.... re-hash what was good. Its all about sprinling the new in with it.

[Hammy]

if magic cameras and 'Slam Master Jay' are the order of the day its all in vain

They worked in the Attitude Era and he's Smackdown 

As for rehashing, yes but at least rehash it with different people....

....and not everythings been rehashed, Attitude pretty much turned the business on its head and finished things NEVER seen before (in mainstream wrestling obviously)

[D]

until they end the brand split, it will continue to suck

[Hammy]

until they end the brand split, it will continue to suck

That may help but poor writing is poor writing, whether they have the star power or not.

[D]

 Yeah but u take the best matches from SD and couple that with the best From RAW and that would be a great god damn show

The writing is bad but they really don't have the talent to do anything with so we are stuck with the same ole **** over and over and over.

look at it like this:

right now on Raw u have

Main event:
Cena
Orton
HHH
HBK
Jericho
Big Show

midcard:
Swagger
Kofi
MVP
Miz


SD
Main Event
CM
Undertaker
Batista


I mean damn

but u combine that on one show and u got some intrigue and some damn good feud possibilities.

[Hammy]

But a lot of people complain that Orton is boring, Cena is annoying, neither have the talent of The Rock and Austin, Batista is also boring, poor in the ring, D-X are stale etc. I mean combine shows and guys like that are still the Main Event and RAW is seen as the Entertainment show, putting good wrestlers on it isn't going to mean a sudden rush in decent in-ring action.  If anything an end to the split means guys like Ziggler and Morrison struggle even more to get a look in.

[Gnrfan]

Hammy's Right DX are **** and no where near what they were. DX in its prime was contraversial, Funny, Entertaining and exciting. Now its kinda entertaining at times and thats it.

Orton may be boring in ring sometimes but thats part of his heel work. Orton is brilliant and will be around for many years and some of his work in the past year has been excellent and if handled properly the Legacy explosion could be one of the best moments in recent years. And lets be honest Orton has got Ted & Cody well over in terms of their position in the company.

Batista is **** poor. I'd take Orton & Cena over him anyday of the week. I quite like Cena (i know thats not "cool") he works hard and his matches are never aweful IMO.

The split allows so much more talent on TV. Guys like Swagger, Ziggler, Morrison, Evan Bourne, Miz & Kofi wouldn't get a look in if you ended the split. It would make WWE even more stale than it is now IMO.

For me its giving guys meaningful feuds on TV. Back in '99 even pointless openers had a storyline. Nowadays you might get 5 feuds accross all 3 brands and then one or two matches thrown in for fun.

But i still maintain that rehashing material w/ a fresh twist like getting Bret back up against Vince would get you ratings and in the process maybe.... just maybe create a couple of new stars.

[D]

yeah but use to guys had to EARN their spots and TV time therefore they really busted their asses.

now, they know they are getting on so u don't always seem to get the best effort


Also, kill the stupid **** ****/Chavo ****

ENOUGH ALL **** READY

[Hammy]

Improving quality, no...but ratings...

OrlandoSentinel.com is reporting that overall, WWE's Raw ratings have been up since the company introduced the guest host concept. Since introducing the guest host concept, WWE has been averaging a 3.64 rating for Raw every week. During the same 14 week period last year, Raw was drawing an average of 2.95 per week.

So I'd assume they are here to stay.  I'm only just watching this weeks show, and a few minutes in I'm baffled as to why they got this Rev, and angered he came out to Apollo Creed's music, where is Carl Weathers dammit 

[More Cowbell]

They are using guest hosts like SNL. Itgets fans of the guest to turnin. 

Vince doesn't give a **** about wrestling anymore or....

Horn/chavo would have weekly tv time.

Evan bourne and swagger would have somebackground to fued over instead of just weekly tv match.

He is diversifing his company making movies now and other bullshit.

He would have iron shiek wrestle weekly if it got him a 5.0. Rating.

Vince is smart and about money. Whatever gets the best ratings and the most merch he will role with.