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WWE Game XIV: Its Time To "Split": Discussion Thread
« on: October 06, 2009, 02:54:32 pm »
Right, we need to have "that" discussion.  With the 3 Man Waiting List we have 18, so how are we gonna split/sort this.  Bring forth your ideas  :coffee: :coffee:
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Re: WWE Game XIV: Its Time To "Split": Discussion Thread
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2009, 06:11:55 pm »
Big 12. Top twelve performers in this game move on in the "premier league" bottom 3 get demoted. Scores are so close right now at the bottom its anyones game, bottom 3 finishers get demoted. Then after the next game I would keep 12 in the premier league and demote 2 and promote 2 so we always have the Big 12. And if u want to play with the big boys you will need to earn a spot.
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Re: WWE Game XIV: Its Time To "Split": Discussion Thread
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2009, 06:20:00 pm »
Right, we need to have "that" discussion.  With the 3 Man Waiting List we have 18, so how are we gonna split/sort this.  Bring forth your ideas  :coffee: :coffee:

I'd say 10 in the top league. i say the top 6 in this game qualify automatically and whoever finishes bottom is definatly in the 2nd league and the ones in the middle are at random.

I mean Cowbell is our champ and he might have a bad game but this "one" game shouldn't put him down. I think there should be an element of luck.

Like i say top 6 in this game qualify automatically then draw 4 at random to join them. Whoever gets the spoon in this game is relegated and the other 7 are at random.

At the end of each game top 3 go up and bottom 3 go down. That way it makes the game interesting even at the bottom.

The only other way is to have 18 in one league with 4 picks IMO.

EDIT: Also i think 12 players in the top league, only leaves 6 in the 2nd league. I think thats rubbish as even though its 2nd league it should be fun to play.
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Re: WWE Game XIV: Its Time To "Split": Discussion Thread
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2009, 06:48:50 pm »
I prefer the 10-8 idea.

We may get some new people signing up and then we'd have 10-10, the perfect split.

As mentioned in past discussions the idea for a second league is to make it equally fun and to tweak it slightly to make it "easier" for the more active/interested players to win.  More relaxed drafting methods etc.  Ultimately it can't be a carbon copy of the #1 League.

Obviously we need to decide this sooner rather than later.

I'm not too keen on the "random" relegation, for someone who has worked had and got 6th and missed out on 4th and 5th by a few points, the potential to still go down seems a bit blah.  I think it should be a simple, places x y and z go down scenario.

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Re: WWE Game XIV: Its Time To "Split": Discussion Thread
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2009, 10:40:58 pm »
Well i think we have answered the question.

10 in the top league, 8 in the 2nd..... Top 10 in this game stay the rest are relegated.

The only thing i would say is that should all previous champions be in the top league? I mean is it right that a 2x champion in Cowbell ends up in the bottom league (thats not assuming he'll stay where he is just and example). I'm not entire clear in my own head whether its just bad luck, or we should stop it.

My head says that its just tough luck. But then you could argue a very strong case that Cowbell is one of the elite players and deserves his spot. On the other hand we have some rookies this time. It hardly seems fair to demote them if they haven't won a title after 1 game.

Its a tough one. Not sure there is a right answer. Thats why the random thing might take the controversy out.
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Re: WWE Game XIV: Its Time To "Split": Discussion Thread
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2009, 10:56:25 pm »
When we originally discussed it we simply said the "Current" champion has a free pass, which would in theory be fair.

We have 3 views on this now, time to sit back and see what everyone else thinks.

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Re: WWE Game XIV: Its Time To "Split": Discussion Thread
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2009, 11:21:56 pm »
This was initially going to be a longer post, and I have my reasons for suggesting it, but I am kind of distracted at the moment...

Anyway!, in short, basically, my idea is that we postpone having a premier and lower league until the game after next.

I was thinking, why not set up the next game (we all love a themed game!) as the game in which you are playing for which league you are in.

Obviously we need some sort of split by the start of the next game, so how about we draft (a Raw and a Smackdown league would seem to make the most sense) the two leagues at random next time around, with the top five from each league then making up the premier league for the following game.

Two points.

Firstly, this has nothing to do my being extremly unlikely to make the top half this time around... There is no doubt in my mind that I won't in the following game either!

Secondly, I can see a problem that people may have with this being, what if too many strong people are drawn in the same league, given that it will dilute the premier league next time around since other players may have an easier time of it in the other league if the strength is lopsided. Well, we could always seed, say, four people (Malcolm, Hammy, D and Cowbell come to mind), two in each league, to ensure that they aren't all drawn together.

This way it would add more spice and interest to the game right from the beggining, given that everybody knows what they are playing for and the cut off point for which league you are in will be clearly defined from the beggining...

Just a thought.
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Re: WWE Game XIV: Its Time To "Split": Discussion Thread
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2009, 11:40:01 pm »
RAW and Smackdown leagues?

You lost me, how would that work.

What about the ECW guys?

And would there be enough to draft?

And what happens when wrestlers switch brands mid-game....

...Or have I turned over 2 pages at once.

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Re: WWE Game XIV: Its Time To "Split": Discussion Thread
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2009, 11:47:25 pm »
Sorry, I wasn't clear at all. You didn't so much turn over two pages as I stuck them both together. Apologies, as I say, I'm really distracted at the moment. I merely meant that we draft people to seperate leagues a la 'Raw' and 'Smackdown'. I just thought that it would be more of a gimmick when thought of like that. The drafting pool would be the same for both.
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Re: WWE Game XIV: Its Time To "Split": Discussion Thread
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2009, 11:49:35 pm »
Sorry, I wasn't clear at all. You didn't so much turn over two pages as I stuck them both together. Apologies, as I say, I'm really distracted at the moment. I merely meant that we draft people to seperate leagues a la 'Raw' and 'Smackdown'. I just thought that it would be more of a gimmick when thought of like that. The drafting pool would be the same for both.
Ah so it'd be like, to go nWo for a moment.

TSC Wolfpac and TSC Hollywood.  Each have 9 members.  The top 5 in the Wolfpac and Hollywood make the TSC Premier League, the others make the TSC "B League", so to speak, I get ya now, another nice idea on the table.

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With us all drafting from the same pool we would haveto have 4 man teams or more then 1 tna er hurting some of the fans who don't watch tna.
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With us all drafting from the same pool we would haveto have 4 man teams or more then 1 tna er hurting some of the fans who don't watch tna.
No, he meant (I assume, correct me if I'm wrong Jim).

TSC Wolfpac - 9 Players - Draft from RAW/Smackdown/ECW.  Thats one complete game.

TSC Hollywood - 9 Players - Draft from RAW/Smackdown/ECW.  Thats another complete game.

The 2 don't crossover.  Each game has the same roster available.  So you'd have the full roster for 9 players.  Thats more than enough, heck it'd be bidding city during the game with the healthy guys left over.

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Do we have enough for a uk group league and a us league. That would be interesting
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Hammy, correct-i-mondo. (What?)

Cowbell, that would be great! Off the top of my head, we're split pretty evenly in that regard, aren't we?

That could then lead to a Super League for the following game!

... In reflection, off slightly lower down of my head, we are slightly lopsided towards the yanks, aren't we?
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