The Tag Titles

[Gnrfan]

Ok i was thinking about the current state of the tag titles.

At the moment i see them as the 3rd most important (after two world titles) title in the company, due to the level of superstars that have held the titles since June and the fact that it allows the champions to appear on any of the 3 brands.

What i'm wondering .... is this type of tag title here to stay? It seems to have pros & cons and i wonder if WWE have kinda put themselves in a corner that they can't get out of.

The pros are obvious as we get to see Main Event quality such as Jericho & HHH on every show and the tag titles are a prestige title again which they haven't been since Hardys/Dudleys/E&C era... Something which WWE came in for a lot of critism for.

The cons are also obvious. Teams like Legacy, Hart Foundation etc are Tag Teams without a chance of winning the tag belts. And you dont really get a Tag Division in the sense that 4 or 5 teams are going for the straps. Its very D-X vs Jerishow and when thats over its D-X vs the next. Plus it kinda feels like the tag belts are a holding belt for bigger stars who aren't in the title picture (in the same sense of the Legends belt was in TNA)

Is there a medium to be found? Or is the new elevated tag titles a good thing? Will it stop younger teams from getting their chance?

[Hammy]

The benefit of this treatment of the titles is they seem prestigious again, and with so few teams, it makes sense, they should sack some Divas and do a similiar thing with the Women's strap.

On a related note, I'd like just one set of belts.

I'm hoping they'll give the lesser teams a chance, they just seem intent on keeping it on big name teams because of the loophole of making you available to all 3 brands, the benefit of having Jericho or Triple H show up on any show is far higher than a David Hart Smith, I am hoping though that the Hart Dynasty get the belts, the push and get onto all the brands and some more teams get brought up.  Teams like D-X and Jerishow won't be around forever.

[Gnrfan]

On a related note, I'd like just one set of belts.

 Teams like D-X and Jerishow won't be around forever.

I agree with the one set of belts.

and i also agree about the super-teams. However will they keep finding different super-teams. I mean whos to say that after a D-X/Jerishow feud they don't then do a Jerishow/E&C Feud and then a E&C/Taker & Kane.

If you think about it, it actually makes a lot of sense for the older guys. Guys like Taker can't really do a full year anymore so having him and Kane as tag champions for 3 months with another 3 months off completly would have him ready to go for the Mania period of the year.

I guess teams like the Hart Foundation could be put over big time, but like Hammy says who at this point do crowds prefer to see on all 3 brands Tyson Kidd or HBK / DH Smith or Chris Jericho.

My problem with it is that in the past the tag titles have been a great stepping stone for people. Jeff Hardy, Edge, Kofi, Morrison, Miz, Orton, Jericho, Batista to name a few who now have progressed well up the ranks in the company.

I hope that isn't gone forever. I'm still firm believer that a wrestler that slowly progresses through the titles (Tag Titles, Midcard Title, Main Event) generally stands a better chance of a long lasting career.  Guys like Bret Hart, Edge, HHH, Jeff Hardy etc all had/have a great rapport with fans and i beleive its because they can identifiy with their journey to where they are.

[Hammy]

I can see how the Super Teams thing could go on for a long time, but I think it creates a bigger point, is the brand split still needed, they have this constant need it seems to break it and have guys show up on this and that brand and if ECW is canned/rebranded, that along with Superstars could be another show for talent from all brands, they really don't need it.

[Gnrfan]

I can see how the Super Teams thing could go on for a long time, but I think it creates a bigger point, is the brand split still needed, they have this constant need it seems to break it and have guys show up on this and that brand and if ECW is canned/rebranded, that along with Superstars could be another show for talent from all brands, they really don't need it.

I think the brand split falls under the same category as the tag titles it has pros and cons. Its brilliant if you wanna split a tag team up or you have a stale feud but it can lead to a stale brand from time to time.... like for a good 4 months SD was really good and raw was horrible. That can easily happen with the brand split.

[Hammy]

I just think with 4 shows, it doesn't pose ANY problems these days.

I hope they continue to care about the Tag Division, and as tiring as it gets say this, I urge them to pair up guys with no purpose and give them a gimmick and a team name, it works a damn lot.

Imagine guys who are getting lost in the mix, like Ziggler & Swagger....

[Gnrfan]

I just think with 4 shows, it doesn't pose ANY problems these days.

I hope they continue to care about the Tag Division, and as tiring as it gets say this, I urge them to pair up guys with no purpose and give them a gimmick and a team name, it works a damn lot.

Imagine guys who are getting lost in the mix, like Ziggler & Swagger....

I agree, for guys who get lost in the shuffle or creative aren't quite sure on a Tag Team is a great way to give them a chance. Swagger & Ziggler would be great

[Izzy]

4 shows - ditch 2 of them and add an hour to the surviving 2

I have to admit - i dont like tag teams. Personality is lost, wrestling seems to work best as an individual thing - strong personalities vs strong personalities

After more than 5 years of WWE destroying the tag division - I think i've just got used to it

It sure isnt going to save WWE bringing them back - lets face it most tag teams are two wrestlers who arent good enough on their own

[Hammy]

Who aren't good enough on their own, but together they are great and tremendiously OVER and entertaining....

New Age Outlaws, Dudleyz, APA, Legion of Doom....

....having grown up with it I'll always adore tag team wrestling, its a shame its gone by the wayside for the most part.

[Gnrfan]

Good Tag Teams are brilliant to watch.

I remember watching teams like the Hardys, Dudleys, E&C, Smoking Guns, LOD, Hart Foundation etc and their matches were always exciting.

I think thats why there is a tag divison because wrestlers that wouldn't have made it on their own can be credible champions coz they have "Teamwork" and "Tag Wrestling Experience".

Some teams just have it.

[More Cowbell]

Demolition. Sure we got the Blacktop BUlly and the Repo Man afterwards but there was nothing like Demolition. AX n SMASH they had everything a great championship team should have. Cool Gimmick, Real Name. Timed Tag Team MOves. Entrance Music that pumped you up. Road Warriors same thing there tagged success was huge, I loved gimmick teams with names, TIMED TAG TEAM ROUTINES and Moves, Doomsday Device, Double Rockers off the top rope, Proper Tag wrestling has been long gone and its what i miss the most, back in the WWF day they had 3 titles (World, Tag, IC) so they had a tag division for people vying for a title. With 2 worlds, 1 ecw, us, ic, aqnd 2 womens there just doesnt seem to be time or effort into tag titles, and putting HBK and HHH together as DX or Jerishow doesnt count as effort in making teams

[Gnrfan]

Ok.

Simple question:

Do you think that the tag titles will make the main card at Wrestlemania?

Coz i dont. HBK will likely face Taker and therefore HHH has to fight on his own too.

Unless a lesser team wins them, but then does that help the tag titles get on Mania?

[Hammy]

With all the planned singles matches already in the works and MITB, I'd be very surprised, it'll only happen if its a "BIG NAME" one, like you suggested: Edge & Christian vs. Jerishow.