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John Morrison
« on: April 30, 2010, 06:22:11 pm »
I was thinking about Morrison moving to Raw and the more i think about it the more i don't like it.

Morrison's style suited SD (The Wrestling Show) over RAW (The Entertainment Show). Cena and Orton remain the top Face's on RAW and HHH will be back at some point i'm sure. At best that puts Morrison at the number 4 Face on RAW.

I think WWE see him as a replacement for HBK, a guy who is good in the ring and has a natural face demeanour. But he doesn't have the HBK promo skills and i think that will stand out on RAW.

With Cena as champ you have to assume thats not his first feud and if he feuds with Sheamus i think he'll come off second best. Will he go after Miz and his US title? Maybe, but i see him looking a little higher than that.

Personally i'd like to see Batista put him over, in the same vein that HHH put Jeff Hardy over.

What do you all think?
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Re: John Morrison
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2010, 08:43:44 pm »
I think he simply got moved because they felt he'd exhausted most of his options and wasn't a big enough name to headline with Swagger, not that Swagger is a big name but 2 minor names feuding with each other definately wouldn't be a draw.  His big problem is he isn't a natural face, the nature of his character is unlikeable, just like Shawn Michaels in the mids 90s, a heel turn is a must before he goes anywhere.

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Re: John Morrison
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2010, 01:31:26 am »
I'm a big Morrison fan but i cant see him doing much on RAW main event wise. Youve got Cena, Batista, Sheamus, Edge, Jericho, Orton, HHH - i just dont see him getting a shot at the gold between that lot. Big dissapointment he moved because i think Chritian/Kofi Kingston would make two great opponents on Smackdown.

I do think he needs to improve his mic work. He comes across to me as abit unatral and geeky, doesnt feel as though hes comftable. It was a battle for HBK to get to the top being a small, athletic guy with high fyling moves - i think it will probably be even harder for Morrison become a World champion.
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Re: John Morrison
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2010, 01:07:45 pm »
I'm a big Morrison fan but i cant see him doing much on RAW main event wise. Youve got Cena, Batista, Sheamus, Edge, Jericho, Orton, HHH - i just dont see him getting a shot at the gold between that lot. Big dissapointment he moved because i think Chritian/Kofi Kingston would make two great opponents on Smackdown.

I do think he needs to improve his mic work. He comes across to me as abit unatral and geeky, doesnt feel as though hes comftable. It was a battle for HBK to get to the top being a small, athletic guy with high fyling moves - i think it will probably be even harder for Morrison become a World champion.

All i would say about Morrison on RAW that without HHH around.... he is the 3rd Face of RAW behing Cena & Orton. It looks like Orton and Edge will take up each others time for a bit and i kinda expect Sheamus to go after Cena again. Thats why i'd love Batista to really put Morrison over. I see it as very similar to what HHH did for Jeff Hardy not so long ago.

Morrison needs that "big" feud IMO and maybe beating Batista clean on PPV would be just the ticket for him.

If he has just come to feud with Miz, then he is no better off than he was on SD. He needs to be on the fringes of teh World Title picture.... not the US title. Although i could maybe see him as a transitional champion as a way to get the belt on Dibiase and add heat to a non-title Miz/Morrison feud.
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Re: John Morrison
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2010, 01:19:22 pm »
He's probably my favourite wrestler in the WWE - he can actually do an interesting match.

Get him in a stable and see where u get from there
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Re: John Morrison
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2010, 12:51:24 am »
I'm curious what people think, can honestly I've come to the conclusion recently he can't.

I'm not seeing any change at the moment, it's same old, same old.  Whenever he talks I cringe, his talking ability is awful, he has so little charisma as a face, and even though he was better as a heel, compared to guys like Miz, Edge, Vince McMahon, Triple H etc. he is nothing.  Now this isn't to say he can't have one of these "Jack Swagger reigns" where they roll the dice and give him a chance with the strap, but I'm talking about whether he can make that leap to perceived "Main Eventer" and stay there.  In many ways he has that Shelton Benjamin thing, where he has the wrestling skills but in reality very little else.  People compared him with Shawn Michaels because of his high flying moves, cocky demeanour and female friendly look, but really, he's not even close to being in the same league.  Since his split from Miz, The Miz has thrived, Morrison has struggled to get that major push.  He needs repackaging and turning to achieve some semblemce of top level success, in his current form he just can't cut it.

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Re: John Morrison
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2010, 02:18:33 pm »
I like his gimmick, but he'd probably be better as a heel. I think a new finisher would help too, Starship Pain looks like it barely touches his opponent most of the time....

I think he can main event, perhaps a manager/agent to do most of his talking?
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Re: John Morrison
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2010, 06:40:17 pm »
Yeah he just hasn't quite found his niche... the whole john morrison/jim morrison thing just doesn't work. He needs to play on his looks and do the heel gimmick where i am greater/better than everyone etc.

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Re: John Morrison
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2010, 02:37:06 pm »
Needs to be put good matches... ala feuding with the likes of Rey Mysterio, C.M. Punk, Chris Jericho...

That's where he belongs if he's ever gonna do anything, probably go the Shelton Benjamin route instead and get released after WWE runs out of silly pointless scenarios for him.
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Re: John Morrison
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2010, 06:01:07 pm »
He needs a new gimmick to be a main eventer IMO. Hell HBK needed a few gimmicks before he main evented. That is just an example.

Morrison needs to start feuding with some top mid-carders and even someone like Jericho. I think he could have what it takes to main event, but not now.

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Re: John Morrison
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2010, 03:05:40 am »
I'm close to agreeing with Hammy here.  The guy does have a few more chances to make a run at the top only because the Smackdown roster is pretty weak at the top.  What's funny is that they've paired Morrison with Melina and she ended up being a bigger star than him.  Same thing happened with the Miz.  C.M Punk ended up passing him too after feuding with Morrison over the ECW title a few years ago.

At some point those he's got to break through.  I suggest a full fledged heel turn at this point--he isn't face material at all.

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Re: John Morrison
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2010, 07:22:36 pm »
I see him in a kinda Jeff Hardy role.

For a long time people wondered if Jeff could main event.... guys like Edge had seemed to come out of the pack miles ahead of him. But as soon as HHH put him over (and he did in a big way)... he seemed to believe it himself and kicked on with good promos and good matches. All of a sudden he was a beliveable champion.

I think Morrison is the same. He still hasn't had that "Big" feud, where he goes over a "Big Name" two or three times in a Row. Cena, Batista, Hardy, Orton, Edge.... they all had that!

Morrison needs that. If he had a feud with Edge and beat him on two PPV's in a row and then followed it up by beating HHH or Cena clean on PPV... people (including him) would believe it.
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Re: John Morrison
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2010, 07:38:22 pm »
An amazing wrestler and frankly everything else should be secondary anyway. I'd kill to see him v aj
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Re: John Morrison
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2010, 05:21:46 am »
This dude is just amazing. the stuff he does is incredible and matrix like. No idea why he isn't being pushed to the moon. He is an amazing wrestler, athletic, good looking, can do it all.

If AJ Styles got number 1 ranking in PWI top 500.. morrison shouldve been  right there cause i think he is better than AJ.

His match tonight on Raw against Sheamus was insane. the **** he did in the back warming up... WOW! and the match itself was incredible.


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Re: John Morrison
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2010, 08:07:37 pm »
Hyperbole much? :P

Nah, he's very good. But....

- He needs another finisher. Starship Pain rarely looks like it could do much damage. The Moonlight Drive also wasn't 'high impact' enough. He needs something that he can hit out of nowhere, but looks like it could hurt.

- Most people agree he's still not the greatest talker. His promos can sound a bit forced. But that could be helped by...

- Make him a heel! He was a good arrogant, cocky heel. Turn him back again and perhaps make him a face again some way down the road when he's a bigger 'star'.


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