UFC Thread

[Hammy]

First fight, Belcher was not robbed.  30-27 was over the top but 29-28 was fair.  1st round Aki, 2nd Belcher and 3rd Aki.  Coming into the 3rd Aki had his lead leg ****, he was blind in one eye yet he still managed to outstrike Belcher, thats why he won, Belcher has a gift he should of finished yet he couldn't he got schooled by a one legged, one eyed guy 

Henderson outclassed Bisping.  No doubt there.  But if Babalu gets fired for holding a choke on too long and admits he did it to teach his opponent a lesson, how about Henderson being punished?  I like the sport but if its to gain mainstream acceptance fighters need to stop hitting their opponents when they are obviously out, this "Just making sure", "Its in the heat of the moment", "Its the refs job to pull me off", it just looks bad.

GSP showed why he is the best, it wasn't exciting but it was smart.

Lesnar has come on and well done to him, I am a big Mir fan and I was gutted.  He is scary strong, the damage he did.  People's issue with Lesnar is he, Tito Ortiz and plenty others talk trash, be the bad guy, then post fight they say, "Hey we talk it up, gets the fans interested, then we bang, beat the **** out of each other and shake hands afterwards", its martial arts, its a beautiful thing that fans believe should be respected.  With a lot of guys you know they are acting, Brock is a quality heel though because everyone believes it, you really do think he is a dick and you really do want him to lose to generate that heat, the guy is money in the bank, he is damn smart.

As for his next opponent I think it has to be the winner of Carwin and Velasquez.  I think Carwin could give him trouble.  What I thought was interesting in the fight was before the second takedown when Mir was throwing strikes, Brock didn't like it (who does like being hit?), the way he reacted to it, nobody has given him a really good whack, the crazy power Carwin has in his hands combined with a better takedown defence than Mir, that could be an immense fight.  And despite the destruction, money talks, if Mir wins a few they know a rubber match will generate a good buyrate.

Fitch looked impressive and the funny thing is he seems to fight just like GSP, he smothers you, he neutralises you and he takes away your spirit, come the end Thiago was done.

I'm downloading the prelims now, I read those results though, I'm so happy Coleman won and amused Lawlor sent Dollaway to sleep, I'll comment on those more when I've seen 'em.

[Hammy]

Prior to this past Saturday's UFC 100 event, an underground movement took root and called for mixed-martial-arts fan who would attend the show to begin "Fedor!" chants throughout the night.

The thought, of course, was to make UFC executives well aware of the fans' desire to have Fedor Emelianenko, the world's top-ranked heavyweight and arguably the greatest MMA fighter in the division's history, fighting in the octagon.

The chants were never heard, but after UFC 100, UFC President Dana White said he wants Emelianenko in the UFC, that it's eventually going to happen, and that a fight with Brock Lesnar is imminent.

Lesnar, the former World Wrestling Entertainment superstar and NCAA Division I national wrestling champion, picked up his third consecutive UFC victory and first-ever title defense with a dominant second-round TKO of interim title-holder Frank Mir in UFC 100's main event.

With Lesnar's current streak of wins over Heath Herring, then-champ Randy Couture and now Mir, many are looking to possible future opponents for the seemingly invincible ground-and-pound machine.

Emelianenko, the former longtime PRIDE heavyweight champion, is the man many see as most likely to topple Lesnar. At 30-1, with back-to-back Affliction wins over two former UFC champions (Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski) and a 26-0 record (with one no-contest) over the past nine years, many fans are clamoring for the Russian fighter to take on the top talent in the world's premier fight organization.

"This Fedor thing has gone on and on and on," White said in the post-UFC 100 press conference. "Eventually, Fedor's going to be here. I want Fedor. I want him to come to the UFC and everything else.

"This guy (Brock Lesnar) just won the heavyweight title, and we'll end up getting that deal done. And then we'll do Brock vs. Fedor, and it'll be a huge fight."

How soon could we such the fight?

"Who knows," White said. "He's obviously contractually obligated to fight (with Affliction). Once that's over, we'll figure it out."

UFC officials have met with Emelianenko and his representatives multiple times. However, the meetings proved far from productive and often left each side blaming the other for the inability to get a deal done. The UFC said Emelianenko's demands were too outrageous, not necessarily from a monetary standpoint (though Emelianenko is believed to make at least $2 million per fight) but because a deal would essentially require the organization to enter the Russian market as business partners with Emelianenko's manager, Vadim Finkelchtein. Emelianenko's people say the UFC's contract demands are too restrictive without any allowances, for example, for Sambo competitions and would dictate all aspects of the fighter's career.

Concessions will be need to be made, and that's often led White to predict a slim chance of a deal coming to fruition. In fact, White has often criticized the fighter, going so far as saying Emelianenko "sucks" while mocking past recent opponents such as kickboxer Hong Man Choi and Matt Lindland, who normally fights at middleweight.

However, White's tune has changed, and on Saturday, he spoke rather definitely about the fighter's future in the UFC.

Of course, that future could hinge on Emelianenko's upcoming Aug. 1 fight at "Affliction" Trilogy." There, Emelianenko meets another former UFC champ, Josh Barnett, who many rank among the division's top three or four.

However, don't expect Barnett to get the same invitation to the UFC is he knocks off Emelianenko.

Why?

"No one's beating down my door to get Barnett," White said.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/15488/dana-white-says-fedor-emelianenko-will-fight-in-the-ufc-brock-lesnar-fight-imminent.mma

Everyone always underestimates Fedor and have predicted his downfall only to be proved wrong many a time, but the dude is small for his weight and I think Brock could really mess him up.  Saying that I'm hope Barnett does first 

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 I get Fedor being the greatest but i saw mark coleman take him down at will

 brock would destroy Fedor IMO

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do u know where i can see or hear the entire post fight conference? UFC only show small parts


Brock is amazing.

Carwin isn't athletic or quick enough IMO. Brock's GNP will be unstoppable. Especially if he learns to elbow.

[Hammy]

Sorry dude, don't know, my usual sites don't have it.

Having watched the prelims, where do Mac Danzig and Stephan Bonnar go now?  Danzig has lost 3 straight but to some really good guys, Bonnar has only lost 2 straight but people are questioning their status with the way UFC are known for cutting people.

Coleman looked slow but used his great wrestling and strength well, makes Shogun's win over him look better, Shogun got gassed trying to move the big guy.

Jon Jones looked slick and at 21, he is going to be a real force.

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Here is the full press conference

http://mmafrenzy.com/10927/ufc-100-post-fight-press-conference-live-stream/

[Rankin]

Sorry dude, don't know, my usual sites don't have it.

Having watched the prelims, where do Mac Danzig and Stephan Bonnar go now?  Danzig has lost 3 straight but to some really good guys, Bonnar has only lost 2 straight but people are questioning their status with the way UFC are known for cutting people.

Coleman looked slow but used his great wrestling and strength well, makes Shogun's win over him look better, Shogun got gassed trying to move the big guy.

Jon Jones looked slick and at 21, he is going to be a real force.

For Danzig, I think he will get one last shot probably downgraded to a Fight Night card (low on the card).

I don't see Bonnar getting cut anytime soon, as Dana said at the post fight press conference "Bonnar & Griffin are like children to me, I honestly believe if they hadn't done what they did that night that we would not be standing here right now".

Coleman looked tired at the weigh-ins but I'm happy to see him win especially at UFC 100.

Jon Jones really continues to impressive me, but I still think he needs time to develop against higher ranked fighters possibly 3 or 4 fights time he could be challenging for the title.

[Rankin]

I agree Lesnar would likely demolish him, I've never been sold on Fedor as being No.1 in the World. Who has he beaten in the last few years a 7'2 Giant with no MMA skills, 'Glass Jaw' Arlovski & Tim 'Fall at will' Sylvia. Thats not enough to convince me.

[Ragu]

They should of devised some way to stop this, like an fight under 3 minutes doesn't count.  I say that because some fights have gone 3-4 minutes and had so much back and forth quality action, despite being relatively short they do deserve including.

it was what ever the fans wanted, they didnt have to put them in

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oh I C

so the fans voted it wasn't a UFC thing

I didn't know that

[Ragu]

oh I C

so the fans voted it wasn't a UFC thing

I didn't know that

ya there were a bunch of fights on the ufc.com site, then the fans picked what they thought were the best, by giving each fight a ranking of 1-10. there were a few hundred fights to choose from

[Ragu]

you 2 sound very noobish saying brock would destroy the best fighter to ever live, i'm a huge brock fan but that's crazy talk. taking fedor down means nothing, ask randleroid...

and also fedor said he'll never be in the ufc

[Ragu]

I think Anderson wins via UD

Anderson Silva has beat NOBODY

Seriously this dude is overrated as hell. Travis Lutter IMO kicked his ass and if he had any kind of gas tank, i think he beats Anderson.


Rich is a great fighter but just a bad matchup, like Ortiz vs Liddell, some guys just have a style u can't beat. That is Rich with Anderson

Dan Henderson also beats Silva if he hadn't gassed as he dominated the first round.

Silva has beat Chris Leben  WOW, James Irvin  WOW,  Patrick Cote.. WOW  Leites I think it was who was in over his head.


Forrest is bigger, stronger and his cardio will give Anderson problems.

seriously one of the worst posts ever on the internet. silva has beat nobody? discounting his 2 wins agaisnt rich as just bad matchup is freaking ridiculous, same as saying hendo just gassed, yeah that knee to the face had nothing to do with it

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Doesn't that hurt his legacy some though not wanting to fight for the top company?

Only reason I see Brock winning is the UFC's rules, octagon etc and cut stoppages.

One can say AA was doing damn good if he hadn't **** up and made that mistake.

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that explains a lot then.