Bret Hart's WWE Return!

[D]

now lets see how bad Vince **** this up


they have a shot here to make this spontaneous. have **** start happening to Vince... blame it on DX or this person or that person.... have Bret Hart behind some type of elaborate scheme

make it seem like Bret is really pissed off and not scripted... if they can do that, it would be ratings gold.. thats my only problem with Last Monday... There were no "real" emotions, I felt it was Mr McMahon the character vs Bret Hart the character.. i wanted shoot type real stuff.

[BlowUpYourVideo]

There were no "real" emotions, I felt it was Mr McMahon the character vs Bret Hart the character.. i wanted shoot type real stuff.

They were probably worried that if Hart and Michaels were allowed to say anything, they might just end up fighting each other. Plus, we don't know how much was scripted. I mean, Bret saying "WWE Universe" (aargh!) is obvious, but the rest, we don't know if he was told exactly what to say....

And Bret 'shooting' on Vince wouldn't have fitted the angle, which was Bret wanting to come back and make peace, not trying to confront Vince. Now that Vince has attacked him, there's a chance of more 'shoot' style stuff perhaps...

[Gnrfan]

No one would believe that Bret shooted on Vince!

especially if he came back again after the RAW. And what could he say that he hasn't said before?

I think they did it well. Seeing Bret standing acorss the ring for HBK in particluar is a classic moment that i think will be one of the most remembered moments in wrestling (not just WWE) in 2010.

And i agree with Cowbell, i beleive that it for the most part was their own words.... Maybe written before hand but their own words.

The Vince/Bret segment was less emotional than the HBK bit i agree.... but its a build up for a feud or at least a match. Of course its his charecter vs Vince's .... thats what WWE does. Thats what 90% of wrestling is.

[D]

yeah but wrestling really works when it is real stuff.. edge/matt hardy etc

This is as real an angle as u will ever get in wrestling. People have been waiting a decade for this.. can't give us the same old WWE bullshit.

[Gnrfan]

yeah but wrestling really works when it is real stuff.. edge/matt hardy etc

This is as real an angle as u will ever get in wrestling. People have been waiting a decade for this.. can't give us the same old WWE bullshit.

I think the difference between HBK/Bret and Matt Hardy/Edge is that Bret and HBK want rid of the stigma that they hate each other as where Edge and Hardy were encouraged to embrace it.

I agree that Bret/Vince could be more emotional however if it is to be a running feud then giving all the emotion away this early would leave them with nowhere to go for the next 3 months until Mania. This way you see Bret as wanting to forgive and move on and therefore no anger and now Vince has kicked him he'll want to kick his head in and i'd assume you'll see more emotion closer to Mania.

thats why the segments were different IMO:

HBK/Bret - Emotional coz alot of it was real

Vince/Bret - Start of a storyline feud that they don't want to burn out too earlt

therefore they follow different rules. You'll have to judge the Vince/Bret thing over the whole feud.

[Hammy]

Seeing it again as part of the RAW Rebound it was more enjoyable, but seriously, looking at his face when he is hugging Michaels, he most definately didn't want to do that if you ask me, it was beyond awkward and his face showed he wasn't enjoying it.  I guess the last segment worked, because it got me annoyed that Vince made him look so weak, he got me angry, so I'll be motivated to see Bret getting his own back!

[Gnrfan]

Seeing it again as part of the RAW Rebound it was more enjoyable, but seriously, looking at his face when he is hugging Michaels, he most definately didn't want to do that if you ask me, it was beyond awkward and his face showed he wasn't enjoying it.  I guess the last segment worked, because it got me annoyed that Vince made him look so weak, he got me angry, so I'll be motivated to see Bret getting his own back!

I think he was trying to listen to what HBK was saying. I'd love to know what he did say! But i admit the hug looked awkward.

And hell yeah the last segment worked for the feud. Its standard, but it makes you think after all he has done to Bret to be so ignorant to still think you were right and then to kick a guy after he has offered the olive branch.... everyone wants to see Bret slap that sharpshooter on Vince now.

[D]

Thats my point. right now, hell yeah, u want to see Bret get his revenge but that doesn't mean WWE will book the angle right to get max heat on it. I hope they do but i will have to wait and see.

Remember Orton vs HHH?

That was the biggest piece of fail ive ever seen. Orton kisses your wife, ddts her and then beats your ass while u are handcuffed...

the match starts and u want to see HHH kill this mothefucker but the matches had NO intensity at all.. just a regular ordinary WWE match.. Ieven bought the PPV to see that **** and it failed big time.

[Gnrfan]

Thats my point. right now, hell yeah, u want to see Bret get his revenge but that doesn't mean WWE will book the angle right to get max heat on it. I hope they do but i will have to wait and see.

Remember Orton vs HHH?

That was the biggest piece of fail ive ever seen. Orton kisses your wife, ddts her and then beats your ass while u are handcuffed...

the match starts and u want to see HHH kill this mothefucker but the matches had NO intensity at all.. just a regular ordinary WWE match.. Ieven bought the PPV to see that **** and it failed big time.

yeah Orton / HHH was rubbish.

But Vince doesn't do bad angles into Mania. It'll be a top priority once it gets started and yeah they could screw it up but i'd be suprised if they did. They have obviously got a plan here and i if the kick was turning the gas on then i can't wait to see what they do to light the match.

[Hammy]

Even in a game so weird and tumultuous as the pro wrestling business, most fans would have bet they'd never see Bret (The Hitman) Hart perform in a WWE ring again.

For that matter, The Hitman himself never thought he'd consider it.

There was just too much bad blood between him and the company from which he departed amid fisticuffs, betrayal and acrimony in 1997.

Furthermore, the seven-time world heavyweight champion was physically incapable of wrestling, due to a career-ending concussion in 2000, followed by a serious stroke in 2002.

But last Monday on World Wrestling Entertainment's flagship TV program WWE Raw, Calgary's world-famous son appeared on the show for the first time in more than 12 years.

"It was a bizarre night. It was surreal," said the 52-year-old Hart when contacted by the Herald. "I kept asking myself if I was really there."

Serving as guest host, Hart was met with a tidal wave of cheers from fans at Dayton, Ohio's Nutter Center as he settled old scores with The Heartbreak Kid Shawn Michaels and WWE chairman Vince McMahon, central figures in his bitter split.

In a surprise twist, Hart and Michaels agreed to bury the hatchet, even embracing in the middle of the ring.

Later in the show, Hart and McMahon also came to a gentlemanly truce. That is, until McMahon -- in the time-honoured tradition of pro wrestling heels -- delivered the cheap shot, a boot to the groin that left Hart on his knees.

In the ongoing soap opera that drives the wrestling world, this was the spilling of first blood, setting a new storyline in motion. It's a feud that will tentatively come to a head at this year's WrestleMania at the end of March, if all goes according to plan.

"I hate to tell you what's going to happen," says Hart. "I don't want to ruin it for anybody."

Nor would the Hitman comment when asked whether he is physically capable of wrestling in the ring, given his medical history -- although he did interject: "I don't mind throwing a few punches (at McMahon)."

In reality, Hart and his former boss mended fences back in 2006, when Hart was inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame. But Hart repeatedly stated over the years that he'd never forgive his long-standing rival Michaels.

That resentment goes back to the infamous "Montreal Screwjob," a November 1997 pay-per-view match between Hart and Michaels in which Bret was promised victory. In the most notorious double-cross in wrestling history, McMahon switched that predetermined result and Michaels was declared the winner, taking home the heavyweight title.

Following the debacle, Bret knocked McMahon unconscious in the dressing room before making his way to the WWE's competitor, WCW.

Tensions grew to what seemed insurmountable proportions two years later, after Hart's brother Owen Hart died in a WWE ring when a dangerous stunt went awry.

Bret supported his family members in a lawsuit against the WWE, for which the Harts later received a settlement.

It's no wonder many wrestling commentators were skeptical when Hart and Michaels made nice on Monday night's Raw. But Hart insists the moment was "pretty real."

"We had a rough idea of what we were going to do . . . but we didn't really speak to each other (before)," Bret says. "My impression was that (he) was actually pretty sincere. He apologized for a lot of what happened. . . . I think it was like a million pounds off of his back. . . . There was a couple of times when it looked like he was going to start crying.

"There was a lot of real emotion in that little segment. . . . I think it was a surprise to him as much as to me."

Of course, the million-dollar question fans have for the Hitman is "Why now?" If Hart was going to return to the WWE, why didn't he do so three years ago, when his war with Mc-Mahon was first laid to rest?

There's much speculation the WWE brought in the Hitman to boost ratings as it goes head to head with Total Non-Stop Action Wrestling, a competitor that recently recruited former WWE star Hulk Hogan. Hogan made his debut on TNA Impact Monday night, the same time as Hart was returning to the WWE fold.

But Hart claims Hogan's arrival at TNA has nothing to do with his return.

"(TNA is) playing it up like that," he says. "Like WWE was scared of whatever Hulk Hogan was going to do, so they went and got Bret Hart to compete."

That's not the case, says Hart, who adds that plans were underway for his comeback long before Hogan's was announced.

Hart also insists that his decision to come back to the ring wasn't financially motivated. "Like a lot of people, I got a little worried about my finances last year when the stock market crashed. But it's kind of rebounded and I was in a position where I could either walk away from this deal or I could do it. . . . I'm not opposed to making a little money . . . but I still don't need to do it."

Instead, in returning to the company that made him famous, Hart says he's looking for "a little closure." He's also interested in preserving the Hart family legacy.

It's no coincidence that Bret's late father Stu Hart, promoter of the famous Calgarybased Stampede Wrestling, will be inducted into the

WWE Hall of Fame this year. As well, a DVD is in the works that will celebrate Stampede Wrestling and the Hart family.

In addition, Hart hopes that his work with the company will help create opportunities for his niece, Natalya Neidhart, and his nephew, Harry Smith (now dubbed David Hart Smith), young WWE grapplers who many feel haven't been given the push that their considerable talents warrant.

Hart says he hopes to "clear the path for a better attitude" which might help Smith and Neidhart "get a little higher up the ladder."

But the final reason the Hitman gives for his return to the squared circle is plain old boredom.

He's got a lot of time on his hands these days with a new girlfriend in the picture, a 27-year-old from San Francisco who's busy studying criminal justice at Mount Royal University.

"I'd just be sitting at home for the next two years waiting for her to finish her program," he says. "What else am I going to do? Garden?"

Besides, life just isn't as thrilling outside of the spotlight.

"I felt more like myself Monday than I have in the last few years," says the Hitman.

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[Izzy]

Ohh, so we are getting a street fight at Mania

just hope Bret is well enough - I'd hate for a fall to aggregate an injury - this guy has extensive brain damage already.

[Gnrfan]

Ohh, so we are getting a street fight at Mania

just hope Bret is well enough - I'd hate for a fall to aggregate an injury - this guy has extensive brain damage already.

Me too. But in a weird way the way he talks, he'd probaly be happy with that risk. Like he said he feels more like himself in wrestling.

The match itself won't be great, but it'll be great to see. Must be hard for a guy that obviously loves wrestling and used to perform at such a high level to be incapable of producing that level

I think a GM role would be great for Bret or a sort of on screen advisor to Hart Foundation like Flair in Evolution.

[Gnrfan]

On his official website, Bret Hart commented on his return to World Wrestling Entertainment as well as his interaction with Shawn Michaels, writing:

"It's hard to begin describing what a surrealistic feeling it was to walk out on the ramp to "Hitman" chants and my music pounding in my head. I want to say I was nervous but I wasn't. Was this really happening? Was any of this possible? Had it really been 12 years? I have a lot of great memories from different times I wrestled in Dayton, Ohio over my 14-year WWE career, including winning the first ever King of the Ring, but the memory of the January 4th Monday Night Raw stands among the highest. Prior to the show, throughout the day, numerous WWE superstars and employees from all levels bent over backwards to make me feel at home. Many of them expressed to me how honored they were to be there on such as special night. Many of them seemed touched, if not emotional, in what I can only describe as one of the happiest nights in wrestling history.

It's worth mentioning that although I did see Shawn earlier in the afternoon in the cafeteria, our in-ring face-off was unrehearsed and heartfelt on both sides and I can finally say that Shawn and I have finally made peace in what has been a long, draining, and sometimes pointless war of personalities. As for everything else that happened, on one hand, I finally found some closure. On the other hand, as far as Vince McMahon goes, I haven't closed anything at all. I have a lot of friends in a lot of places and we'll just have to see what happens next."

Intersting to hear him say that none of his segment with Shawn with scripted.

[D]

yeah except the WWE universe ****

man i hate that saying. i cringe everytime i hear i said from anybody.


Would love to go back and rewatch that now knowing it was all unrehearsed.

[James Lofton]

It was obviously rehearsed. They're not going to put those two guys in that situation without a script that both have signed off on. Lets be real for gods sake.


They have to give it the appearance of being "real" due to the history between the two men. You admit in this era its a work, then it calls into question the authenticity of the screw job itself.

Its why this shouldn't even be happening. I'm sure fans are loving this stuff as wrestling has scraped the bottom of the barrel, but they are definitely walking on thin ice with this.