WWE Game XIV: Its Time To "Split": Discussion Thread

[Hammy]

1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th and 9th from one league end up with 2nd, 4th, 6th and 8th from the other.

And vice versa.

[D]

Can we put that idea to a vote?

Cause another thing I thought of... these games  last awhile

so if u are in league 2 for 4 months and THEN lose in league 2, u could go a whole year without competing for a title.

This format could house unlimited numbers, if we had 40 people we could do 4 separte drafts of 10 people or something.... although u would run the risk of 2 people having identical teams and a potential tie situation...........

[Gnrfan]

Can we put that idea to a vote?

Cause another thing I thought of... these games  last awhile

so if u are in league 2 for 4 months and THEN lose in league 2, u could go a whole year without competing for a title.

This format could house unlimited numbers, if we had 40 people we could do 4 separte drafts of 10 people or something.... although u would run the risk of 2 people having identical teams and a potential tie situation...........

I really think we are over-thinking this guys.

How about top 5 in this game qualify automatically for league A, Bottom 6 automatically go to League B and then the rest plus the newbies are drawn at random.

Until the the leagues take shape both leagues will be really competitive and i think thats a good thing. If some top guys are in the B league that will only help the game in my opinion.

i dont like 1,3,5 etc coz it makes the rest of this game less competitive. As you could finish low and still be in the top league.

I know i'm doing well in this game but i honestly wouldn't mind if i went to the B league due to poor performance. I'd be less happy if i finished 3rd and ended up in the bottom league and someone who finished 8th is in the top league.

[Hammy]

With D's idea there is no bottom league, thats the point, I think you missed it dude.  Here's how it would work... (Give me 20 minutes)

[Gnrfan]

With D's idea there is no bottom league, thats the point, I think you missed it dude.  Here's how it would work... (Give me 20 minutes)

Oh right! But don't you run the risk of people having the same teams and therefore the same scores?

[Hammy]

Raw
Brie Bella, Carlito, Chavo Guerrero, Chris Masters, Eve, Gail Kim, Hornswoggle, Jillian, Kelly Kelly, Nikki Bella.

Smackdown
Charlie Haas, Jimmy Wang Yang, JTG, Layla, Maria, Mike Knox, Natalya, Shad Gaspard, Slam Master J.

ECW
Hurricane, Katie Lea Burchill, Paul Burchill, Rosa Mendes, Tommy Dreamer, Tyler Reks.

No Way Out
Triple H = 54
John Cena = 12
Batista = 12
Randy Orton = 12
Chris Jericho = 44
Big Show = 44
Rey Mysterio = 12
Matt Hardy = 12
Dolph Ziggler = 50
John Morrison = -2
Beth Phoenix = 44
Michelle McCool = 12
Mickie James = 12
Christian = 40
Zach Ryder = 8
The Miz = 44
Kofi Kingston = 12
Jack Swagger = 12
Primo = 12

D: Chris Jericho, John Morrison, Mickie James, Eric Escobar, Tyson Kidd ($20,000) = 54
High_times: John Cena, Kane, Batista, Yoshi Tatsu, Evan Bourne ($120,000) = 12
EricxGNRxSTARx: Randy Orton, Mark Henry, Big Show, Kofi Kingston, Alicia Fox ($120,000) = 68
More Cowbell: Triple H, Undertaker, Shelton Benjamin, Melina, The Miz ($100,000) = 98
Hammy: Christian, Dolph Ziggler, Drew McIntyre, Cody Rhodes, Sheamus ($1) = 90
Evolution: CM Punk, Michelle McCool, Ted Dibiase, Zach Ryder, Santino Marella ($120,000) = 20
Izzy: Shawn Michaels, Matt Hardy, The Great Khali, R-Truth, Finlay ($120,000) = 12
James Lofton: Montel Vontavious Porter, William Regal, Vladimir Kozlov, Ezekiel Jackson, Goldust ($120,000) = 0
Timothy: Jack Swagger, Rey Mysterio, Beth Phoenix, David Hart Smith, Primo ($120,000) = 80

TSC Wolfpac
1. More Cowbell = 98
2. Hammy = 90
3. Timothy = 80
4. EricxGNRxSTARx = 68
5. D = 54
6. Evolution = 20
7. high_times = 12
=. Izzy = 12
9. James Lofton = 0


Raw
Alicia Fox, Brie Bella, Carlito, Chavo Guerrero, Eve, Gail Kim, Hornswoggle, Jillian, Kelly Kelly, Nikki Bella, Santino Marella.

Smackdown
Charlie Haas, Eric Escobar, Jimmy Wang Yang, JTG, Layla, Maria, Natalya, Shad Gaspard, Slam Master J.

ECW
Hurricane, Katie Lea Burchill, Paul Burchill, Rosa Mendes, Tyler Reks.

No Way Out
Triple H = 54
John Cena = 12
Batista = 12
Randy Orton = 12
Chris Jericho = 44
Big Show = 44
Rey Mysterio = 12
Matt Hardy = 12
Dolph Ziggler = 50
John Morrison = -2
Beth Phoenix = 44
Michelle McCool = 12
Mickie James = 12
Christian = 40
Zach Ryder = 8
The Miz = 44
Kofi Kingston = 12
Jack Swagger = 12
Primo = 12

nightrain: CM Punk, John Morrison, Undertaker, Mike Knox, William Regal ($20,000) = -2
Scotta75: Randy Orton, Kane, Montel Vontavious Porter, Yoshi Tatsu, Evan Bourne ($120,000) = 12
Yankee1012: John Cena, Mark Henry, Big Show, Kofi Kingston, Tommy Dreamer ($120,000) = 68
BlowUpYourVideo: Jack Swagger, Mickie James, Shelton Benjamin, Melina, The Miz ($120,000) = 68
Jim: Batista, Dolph Ziggler, The Great Khali, Cody Rhodes, Tyson Kidd ($120,000) = 62
Malcom: Chris Jericho, Beth Phoenix, Ted Dibiase, Zach Ryder, Primo ($120,000) = 108
Gnrfan: Shawn Michaels, Rey Mysterio, Drew McIntyre, R-Truth, Finlay ($120,000) = 12
slashsfro: Christian, Sheamus, Vladimir Kozlov, Ezekiel Jackson, Goldust ($120,000) = 40
Rankin: Triple H, Matt Hardy, Michelle McCool, David Hart Smith, Chris Masters ($120,000) = 78

TSC Hollywood
1. Malcolm = 108
2. Rankin = 78
3. Yankee 1012 = 68
=. BlowUpYourVideo = 68
5. Jim = 62
6. slashsfro = 40
7. Gnrfan = 12
=. Scotta75 = 12
9. nightrain = -2

Overall Leaderboard
1. Malcolm = 108
2. More Cowbell = 98
3. Hammy = 90
4. Timothy = 80
5. Rankin = 78
6. Yankee 1012 = 68
=. BlowUpYourVideo = 68
=. EricxGNRxSTARx = 68
9. Jim = 62
10. D = 54
11. slashsfro = 40
12. Evolution = 20
13. high_times = 12
=. Izzy = 12
=. Gnrfan = 12
=. Scotta75 = 12
17. James Lofton = 0
18. nightrain = -2

[Hammy]

With D's idea there is no bottom league, thats the point, I think you missed it dude.  Here's how it would work... (Give me 20 minutes)

Oh right! But don't you run the risk of people having the same teams and therefore the same scores?

Yeah that is the unfortunate potential flaw, but it'd have to be a strange draft for people to pick the EXACT same teams, since all the players around them picking are different, so the potential variables there, plus its only a major issue if its the two leaders, and wouldn't that lead to someone trying to drop someone and pick up someone better to try and better their team?

[D]

yeah, i mean it would be a one in a billion chance of two people having the same team. and like Hammy said, no one is going to have, even with two games, a good enough 5th pick to keep the entire game, so there will be add/drops etc.


My point for this is, if someone is in the B league 3 straight, they may just quit out of frustration. In all honesty, its a little hard to care about a league that  doesn't count.

Having to be in the B League and see Hammy overtake me in the title count and knowing there was nothing i could do about it sucks

with the League A and B, there is just too much to dispute. There is always that, WEll i was in league b so u didn't beat me argument.

This way, everyone drafts for the title, the 1,3,5 system ensures everyone is in a competitive draft etc.

[D]

also we could give it a test run and if it doesn't work well, think up a new system.

[More Cowbell]

I don't like the feel of that system as much. Let's say I'm in division B and its a close game and I'm ontop the leader board,against GNR in theother division, and I get my buddy D to drop a 3rd round pick to help me out, since GNR isn't in my division he can't outbid me on D's droppage and I couldbetter my team. Not saying it will happened but just throwing it out there.

IF YOU DO LIKE THAT format how about having a champions league with all world ex champs, malcolm, d, gnr, hammy, etc in one division . Throwthenewer guys in the other division. That way new guys don't have seasoned pros beating themdown and combined the scoreslike the last post into one scoreboard. A CHAMPIONS league and a challengers league both playing for the TSC World Championship

[Hammy]

That is a good point, to be honest I feel at the moment we have loads of ideas but no definate vibe as to which is the best, all seem to have flaws and all have their supporters and haters, plus there are those quiet people who are just saying nothing, a potentially 18 person game has had a poll receive "7 Votes".... (Call it 8 because Cowbell can't vote on his phone)

[D]

There are ways around that

we could have A board of trustees that must approve every add/drop

that way, if I try to drop Dolph Ziggler for Jillian Hall to help u out, the board of trustees can void it and not allow it.

I don't think anybody would do that though.


hell, we could do something even nuttier and say u can bid on a guy from either board.

if u have two Dolph Zigglers, u get double pts each time he wrestles.

that eliminates any cheating possibility.

[Gnrfan]

Having to be in the B League and see Hammy overtake me in the title count and knowing there was nothing i could do about it sucks

Are you serious? Thats what you are worried about! haha.

You never know you might find that the B league is really fun. Lets call that the ECW title so its still a title to gain.

Personally i think i like the two league idea better..... If people leave coz its no fun then do you really want them around? Plus it would solve the number problem and it would go back to one league.

You could do it as a brand thing. i.e. Randomly pick 9 for one 9 for another. There is no superior league i.e. WWE Title (RAW) & WCW Title (SD) type thing. Each game only the champion is ammune from changing brands. So each game you get variety. One game you could be the only champion in one league and the next game there could be all champions. There would be just as much interest in who you're be up against as the draft brings. Plus it would make people stick around of they think the league is boring coz the next league could be with a load of different people.

Please Consider this coz i think its the best idea yet!

[BlowUpYourVideo]

You mean have two separate games (same rules, bidding etc.) and at the start of each one, people are randomly assigned to each game, except the two winners??

That sounds quite good to me.


(I'm just making sure I've got it right, all these ideas are kinda running together in my head )

[Gnrfan]

You mean have two separate games (same rules, bidding etc.) and at the start of each one, people are randomly assigned to each game, except the two winners??

That sounds quite good to me.


(I'm just making sure I've got it right, all these ideas are kinda running together in my head )

Yeah thats right. you can do it anyway you like. You could have 1 draft then split.... but i assumed, proofing the game for the future that you'd split into two seperate brands before the draft started and each brand gets the whole draft seperate.

I just don't understand why we should have a league which is a "B" league. Make them equally worthwhile. That way everyone has something to play for.

1st in Brand A is WWE Champion
2nd in Brand A is US Champ
1st in Brand B is World Champ (WCW)
2nd in Brand B is IC Champ
Last in Brand A is the traditional wooden spoon
Last in Brand B is the new Braden Walker Trophy of uselessness haha (or something similar)

Each game..... we randomly get assigned to Brand A or Brand B.... then the Drafting begings as usual. This way relegation is not needed, its all about titles & of course FUN!!!!